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post #11 of 37 Old 10-14-2015, 01:52 PM Thread Starter
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I have been training bird dogs (pointing breeds) for many years. I know the risks associated with some dogs that 'run big'. I plan on adding dog proof fencing around the property. I know I can keep dogs and my kids on my property. I have managed a hunting club that owns more than 150 acres for the purpose of training pointing dogs.

Again, not knowing anything about horses my concern is keeping them off of my property. I was told by the current owner that the neighbor has a total of 5 horses, 2 of which are stallion drum horses.

I will take all precautions to keep my dogs and kids on my land. Is there a risk of the horse coming on my property? I know chain link or welded wire will keep a dog in, but will it keep a horse out? Is there a concern of any horse trying to get out?
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I have been training bird dogs (pointing breeds) for many years. I know the risks associated with some dogs that 'run big'. I plan on adding dog proof fencing around the property. I know I can keep dogs and my kids on my property. I have managed a hunting club that owns more than 150 acres for the purpose of training pointing dogs.

Again, not knowing anything about horses my concern is keeping them off of my property. I was told by the current owner that the neighbor has a total of 5 horses, 2 of which are stallion drum horses.

I will take all precautions to keep my dogs and kids on my land. Is there a risk of the horse coming on my property? I know chain link or welded wire will keep a dog in, but will it keep a horse out? Is there a concern of any horse trying to get out?

There is always some risk, but horses don't just bust loose out of their pastures for no reason. There is almost always a reason whether it be lack of food/water, a perceived threat, or a lonely horse that wants to be near others. If they have no history of escaping, I honestly would not worry about it. Just keep an eye on the neighbors fence and if you see something that needs repair, lightly bring it up to the owner.
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Look at hos fencing and see how solid it looks and whether he has electric fencing too.

If he is keeping to stallions the fencing must be pretty good to keep them apart from each other.
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I am in the process of buying a house. I have young children and the neighbors have stallions. Is this something I should be concerned about?
Even if these horses are stallions, they are livestock and as long as they are properly fenced and stay on the owners property any precautions needed to protect your children is your responsibility. I would suggest fencing a safe play area for your children away from the neighbors property
until they are older.

Same with your dogs. It is your responsibility to keep them off the neighbors property. I had two stallions and a gelding that would chase any dog that came into my pasture and it would not have been pretty if they ever caught the dog. I also saw a dog shot and killed for wanting to play with three broodmares. It was sad because the dog meant no harm but the owner of the mares was within his rights.
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OP, I am sorry. I feel I set you up for the fall in regards to your fence questions and the responses that it isn't the owners responsibility. It isn't, it is yours.

My comments on the fence were meant to be towards how easy it would be for your children to slip through a fence unnoticed if (as kids do) they managed to find themselves over there. A wooden fence might be easy, an electric fence may give them a bit of a surprise...it was more so you're aware of what is there to help teach your children that those big things on four legs aren't as fluffy and mindful of their feet as they are in books.

Speak to the owner. Explain you have kids, and as much as you want them safe they need to learn to steer clear of the horses when unsupervised.

Again. Apologies for the way I worded my post!
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As a horse owner, that also kept stallions for many years, plus broodmares and foals, I would be the one more concerned, should someone with dogs, move in next door !
Yes, a stallion owner is responsible for having fencing that is both safe for horses in general, and also a grade up, if you keep a stallion.
I thus had a pasture for our stallion, that was separated from any common fenceline, by a corridor to our hay field, plus I kept the top wire hot
OUr neighbour at the time. also had a stallion, plus a few other horses, and did not practice safe horse keeping, tot he point I had to threaten to shoot his stud, should he get in with our horses.
The only thing that prevented a wreak, was the fact that our stud was in a safe paddock, with a hotwire, as this idiot neighbour would just put a rope across his drive way , and let his mares out to graze. I was still working in the lab, and came home, to find his in heat mares , having gone through my garden, and up the corridor,a cross from out stud, with only that hotwire preventing a serious wreak
Back to your question though. Make sure your kids don't stray, and make sure your dogs don't get in with the horses.
Dogs are predators, and horses belong to the prey species. I know of several horse, put through a fence, by dogs, and won't hesitate to have my husband shoot any stray dog
Also, are you going to be shooting, as part of that dog training? That also would concern me, as a horse owner, although my horses are pretty used to gun fire, as hubby is a hunter, and has a shooting range on one end of our property, plus we hunt with horses.
Still, he always tells me when he is going to shoot, esp if I have horses in the corral, or in that pasture, right next to his range.
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The visual barrier of chain link is probably enough to stop gentler horses, but others might plow through it. Any horse can break through it, but not all of them would, if that makes sense.

As long as the neighbor's property is secure, I wouldn't worry too much about horses getting loose. If you had a female horse on your property, that might have been a different story because stallions can smell a mare in heat from a long way away and it's not unheard of for a stallion to bust through fencing to get to them. A drum horse is as strong as a darn elephant, so I'd think your neighbor would take proper precautions to keep them contained. Hope this answers your question.

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PS, what in the heck is a stallion drum horse?
If his stallions are in safe fencing, have not been a problem in that area, then having those stallions come on your property, esp if you don't have horses to attract them, would be only likely to occur if your dogs run those horses through a fence, or you really spook them, shooting, etc
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PS, what in the heck is a stallion drum horse?
If his stallions are in safe fencing, have not been a problem in that area, then having those stallions come on your property, esp if you don't have horses to attract them, would be only likely to occur if your dogs run those horses through a fence, or you really spook them, shooting, etc
Yikes, I looked it up! Drum horses are a blend of Gypsy Vanner and Clydesdale or similar to produce a huge horse with a ton of hair! The name comes from the British royal drum horses which carry two kettle drums in parade.
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If the neighbor has Drum stallions, I'll just bet the fencing is really darn secure. While they are probably pretty placid in nature, they could cause a LOT of damage if they got loose. So, I'm going to guess he takes that pretty seriously and keeps them secured. I know I sure would.
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