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post #31 of 43 Old 01-17-2016, 02:00 PM
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I feel lucky that Diva's new place includes both a stall and a small paddock, so she has a choice of inside or outside and can hang in the paddock and at least interact with the horses to either side of her.

She was in pasture prior to this. The pros of pasture were that she got to hang out with other other horses-- she did not have a problem getting along with them-- and she got a little bit more exercise this way, though the area was basically a hill of mud so she didn't get to graze or run.

The cons were mud and elements, along with general wear and tear on her skin. She came to me in pristine condition and picked up several nicks and small wounds in the pasture. In my ideal world, I think she'd have adequate pasture for grazing and running with a small number of horse companions, along with a shelter for inclement weather. This is pretty hard to find anywhere near where I live, though.
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It really depends on the horse and how much time she will be in there. If it's just bringing her in at night or even just during bad weather, that's fine. I would never confine a horse 24/7 to a stall though. They need to keep moving otherwise many will get all stocked up.

Also, my horse HATES being in a stall. We use it for grooming, tacking up and feeding grain only. If left in a stall for an hour or with no food to occupy his mind for even 5 minutes he gets anxiety. (I think it's due to his past racing career)

As long as the horse is comfortable in a stall and they aren't confined to it for the whole day, I don't see an issue.
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post #33 of 43 Old 01-18-2016, 08:37 AM
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I think several things make a stable inviting to a horse.

First a barn needs to be well ventilated, the stables large enough that a horse can move around comfortably. If they can see through bars to other horses they are certainly happier.

In the UK it is the norm for stable floors to be concreted and people are inclined to bed far more deeply. Rubber mats are popular personally I found the horses far dirtier on mats than with a deep bed. Given some shavings as a splash area I found they peed and pooped on it and then lay there too. In the morning all the shavings had to be thrown so I used a lot more than I would on a deep bed, the urine wasn't all absorbed so there was the ammonia being breathed in.





You will not see horses like this when it is wet and windy! The second picture is a mare that broke her pelvis and was stable confined for twelve weeks.
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post #34 of 43 Old 01-18-2016, 10:16 AM
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In general, I vote that stalls for horses are bad.

As an OPTION they're wonderful; but not as a RULE.

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Please study up, if you are new to horses, and don't make any assumptions.
Mine have the option, and they mostly stay outside. Their stalls have ceiling fans, and they do come in on hot days to hang out under the fans; probably more for relief from flies than anything. They sometimes will come in to get out of heavy rain, but almost never to escape snow and cold.

There have been a bunch of articles on keeping horses in cold weather on various equine-related web sites lately; the general consensus is "Turn 'em out, and feed 'em lots of hay."

But as Corporal suggests, as an owner, it is _your_ duty to research their needs, and to provide for them accordingly.

Here is a good place to start:

Study: Winter Shelter Preferences Vary Among Horses | TheHorse.com

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post #35 of 43 Old 01-18-2016, 12:48 PM
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Interesting to see this thread today. I got a call this morning to tell me that Diva had been found cast in her stall. Fortunately, she was very sensible about it and waited for help; there is no indication that she thrashed or panicked in any way. They got her up and moving and walked her around for about 15 minutes and she seemed fine.

So, prior to this I would have said yes, a stall is a great option during the wet weather. Diva has enjoyed having the shelter, and I'm glad for the protection for her feet that the stall and matted paddock provide, but I'm hoping she learned from this episode and won't repeat it. It doesn't always end this well.
Don't throw away the stall because your horse miscalculated and got stuck. It can happen. Should I blame the ditch that "Tyke" rolled in in 1988 and got cast?
Even when the weather is nice and my horses are turned out 24/7, I still check on my horses Every Day.
I would have killed to have stalls many years ago when I just had a shelter! The first shelter was great, but somebody had a fired and we lost the building. The 2nd shelter was very mediocre and I poured tons of calories into my horses to get them through the rest of the winter.
Guess I'll have to avoid ditches in the future.
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My barn is over 50 years old and made of wood, with a cement floor and cement walls 4' up. Wooden buildings BREATHE. There are vents upstairs in the loft and I usually keep the east facing doors open, especially when the the wind is due West.
My stall sizes:
12 x 12 (round pen panels)
10 x 12 (round pen panels)
13 x 8 (wooden one wall, cement 2 walls, 13' gate opening
Had to make do in the barn.
My two geldings share a wall (space). Each of their stalls is connected as a separate rectangle. The beauty of using round panels is that the horses can see each other, you get air flow, and, if you need to, they come apart really fast. I had an elderly horse pass away in one of the stalls, and I was able to take the stall apart, drive my truck in, and pull the body out.
Where the 10 x 12 stall was I had the above mentioned elderly horse, who I moved in as a 19yo, and I he had a 12 x 16 space, to which I didn't even have a gate, since he didn't try to test the sliding doors. He came from a barn where he, 16'2hh TWH, had a 10 x 10 stall, too small for him, IMO.
I have 3/4" mats in all of the stalls. Everything can come out in the Spring to be cleaned. The area in front of the barn had been all gravel at some point, but is mostly grown over with grass. In the Spring, I clean the mats, then haul them out and the sun and rain really clean them, then I put them back after I've scrubbed up the cement floor.
My horses are worth all of this.
Something else to consider. I CLEAN my horses stalls regularly. Do you clean your horse's shelter at all?

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Don't throw away the stall because your horse miscalculated and got stuck. It can happen. Should I blame the ditch that "Tyke" rolled in in 1988 and got cast?
Even when the weather is nice and my horses are turned out 24/7, I still check on my horses Every Day.
It is a lot easier to do a night check when the horses are stalled at night.
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I only have 5 acres, and one of my dogs is especially tuned into the horses, so I can check them whenever I wish, even when turned out.
DD were watching the PBC program about Lippizaners and when they got to the scene where they were weaning the foals, and the foals were calling out to the dams, my dog, "Rose" was visibly upset!
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Not to worry, Corporal. I'm not planning on moving her. Hoping this is a one-off event and she'll learn from her mistake. She's pretty smart.

I gave her a carrot on top of the trash can in the barn. Once. Now every time we walk past that ****ed trash can, she wants to pick up the lid and bang it around. She's a real piece of work!
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