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post #1 of 6 Old 12-13-2016, 07:59 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Stubborn mare

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I just got this 2 mares about a month ago. The one was beaten and the other one was basically skin and Bones.
Bella that was skin and bones has gained weight and looks pretty good. Now my thing is she is the one with the least problems always trying to please but the last week. She had been trying to kick, bite, and since yesterday she doesn't want to move if on the halter.
Last week Monday Me and Hubby went out riding a bit. Matahari the beaten one was like a Ferrari like always. Bella gave me some signs that didn't want to ride. Removed the tack do it all over again. Problem solved. Tuesday afternoon my Friends daughter went with us. My 2 girls of 6 and 8 had a blast. But the moment the girl of 13 wanted to get on she tried to kick and bit the moment you put some pressure on to the saddle. I was out for a few days because of a small operation. And yesterday afternoon we went out both our horses had issues. Bella didn't want to move at all. She didn't want to walk and the lead rope and halter she just planted her feet and there she stood doesn't matter what I do.
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post #2 of 6 Old 12-13-2016, 08:19 AM
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Hi All.

Bella gave me some signs that didn't want to ride. Removed the tack do it all over again. Problem solved. Tuesday afternoon my Friends daughter went with us. My 2 girls of 6 and 8 had a blast. But the moment the girl of 13 wanted to get on she tried to kick and bit the moment you put some pressure on to the saddle. .......... Bella didn't want to move at all. She didn't want to walk and the lead rope and halter she just planted her feet and there she stood doesn't matter what I do.
This sounds like a pain issue. I'd have saddle fit and a vet/chiropractor check and then, if all checks out ok, then I would have a serious CTJ with her, let her know that it's not ok to kick, bite and otherwise be a hag. But first I would rule out pain because when you say, "Remove Tack, Do it again, Problem solved", that sounds like it was pinching or something and making her uncomfortable. Also when you say the 6 & 8 year olds had a blast but the 13 year old had problems when she put pressure on the saddle, sounds like pain.
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Hi All.

I just got this 2 mares about a month ago. The one was beaten and the other one was basically skin and Bones.
Bella that was skin and bones has gained weight and looks pretty good. Now my thing is she is the one with the least problems always trying to please but the last week. She had been trying to kick, bite, and since yesterday she doesn't want to move if on the halter.
Last week Monday Me and Hubby went out riding a bit. Matahari the beaten one was like a Ferrari like always. Bella gave me some signs that didn't want to ride. Removed the tack do it all over again. Problem solved. Tuesday afternoon my Friends daughter went with us. My 2 girls of 6 and 8 had a blast. But the moment the girl of 13 wanted to get on she tried to kick and bit the moment you put some pressure on to the saddle. I was out for a few days because of a small operation. And yesterday afternoon we went out both our horses had issues. Bella didn't want to move at all. She didn't want to walk and the lead rope and halter she just planted her feet and there she stood doesn't matter what I do.
I am sorry. You took possession of an abused horse and a"skin and bones" horse "about a month ago".

WHY ON EARTH Re you riding them already and worse why are you putting your 6 & 8 yrpear old children on horses you know not one single thing about?

The horses need time to adjust and a mo th for horses like these isn't near enough.

My advise is to stay off the horses, quietly work with them from the ground and oh yeah--------- has a vet seen them yet? I hope so-------------------
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Hello, afraid I had much the same thoughts as Walkin about it. Obviously you want the best for your horses, you just sound inexperienced, but a) if the horse WAS 'skin & bone' a month ago, she wouldn't likely yet be in a state to ride b) if she's a good weight now, likely she wasn't that thin a month ago, but if you've increased her weight dramatically over only a month, she could be suffering from health problems(laminitis for eg), and c) a saddle that may have fit her a month ago will be hurting her now, as she's a different shape. So her 'stubbornness' is likely because she is hurting, in the hooves or elsewhere. That the tacking up & putting weight on the saddle is a big problem for her suggests that that is a major issue. Quite possibly, unless her feet are hurting too, she is being 'stubborn' about walking even on lead for you because she's learned that leads to painful experiences.

You said both horses had issue the last time. What's the drama with the other?
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I agree with the others.

would you like to post some photos of the mares, and the saddles, and the saddles ON the mares, (NO blanket or pad), and good photos taken in good light and from various angles. that way we can get an idea of the saddle fit.

obviously , people on the internet can't make as clear a judgement as someone right there, who is able to feel the saddle on her back. but, we may be able to see anything obvious.

may I ask, how much prior experience with horses do you have?
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I agree as well, abused horses need time to heal from the mental and physical scars. You shouldn't be riding them this early.
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