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post #1 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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Stubborn new horse?

Hi all,
This is my first post and I am posting it because I am frustrated and so sad that I cannot stand it!
I grew up riding horses and worked at a therapy horse stable for the last couple years. I have never, however, been the sole caregiver or owner of a horse.
My husband and I had the opportunity to help my sister-in-law by taking in a 9 year old Arabian gelding that her mares were not being kind to. He's lovely.
Knowing that horses are herd animals and that the Arabian (Romeo) has always been among other horses, we also bought a 3 year old barrel prospect Quarter Horse very very inexpensively so he would have a friend.
Her previous owners have been riding her since she was 2 and she rode beautifully for them. Ran barrel patterns like a champ. Walked, trotted, cantered with just vocal commands and with just leg commands. She seemed perfect for us. Very mellow when not riding, sweet as can be.
Well, we've begun riding her now that they are settled in. The first ride was good. We trotted around and took a little walk around the land to let her see her new home. And I lunged her a couple times and she did okay, although she could use some ground work. The next ride she began to stop and not go no matter what we do. Now, she is downright stubborn...or lazy...or rebellious. I don't know! She digs in and just STANDS THERE.
WHAT DO I DO? Leg pressure doesn't phase her, kicking a bit does nothing, tapping her butt does nothing.
HELP. I am so afraid I bought a lazy horse!

(And please don't get onto me for being a dummie! I am learning/relearning as I go. I am doing my best, I assure you!)
Thanks, y'all!
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post #2 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 05:56 PM
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Does she respect you on the ground?

It honestly sound like it could one of two things.

1. Pain, she may hurt somewhere, I'd have a vet out to give her a thoroughly once over, blood, teeth, flexing, the works. If she's given the all clear you know it's likely a respect issue.

2. Respect. She likely has lost respect for you as a leader. If this is the case you'll basically have to start all over from the ground up and teach her you are the leader. Work her on the ground, make her yield her hind and fore quarters, back, move forward and sideways. Teach her to stop and go on your command.

Once that's done begin doing it under saddle, make it very uncomfortable for her to ignore your aids. If you have to carry a crop and give her a good hard pop.

If she still refuses to move forward then you'll need to employ the help of a more experienced friend or trainer.
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post #3 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:09 PM
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Riding her on barrels since she was two? Isn't that a little young for that kind of work? Maybe just give her some time to grow up without all the stress on her joints.
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post #4 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:19 PM Thread Starter
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That's what I thought, too. But, both the vet that checked her out for us and my own vet who has been caring for her said that by 2 the average horse had settled enough in her joints to begin riding. I can only quote them because I don't know enough about it to speak with authority.
What age do you all wait until?
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post #5 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:22 PM
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She's still a baby and will be prone to tantrums if you don't know how to head them off before she gets started. This would be another "green on green headed for black and blue. I strongly suggest the help of a qualified trainer. Preferably NOT the idiot that was running barrels on a baby.
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post #6 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
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The vet described her as very broke and more mellow than he had ever seen a 3 year old. I am so beyond confused by all the info I am gathering, though.
Can I attach videos of her?
Now I feel like I got suckered.
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post #7 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:31 PM
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Assuming she passes a veterinarian inspection I would increase the pressure on the hind end pops. Increase firmness then quit as soon as she takes a step. One hard pop is better than ten little taps which will create resistance.
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post #8 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
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This is her.
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post #9 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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Oops, I can't get the video to attach. Let me try again. Sorry!
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post #10 of 31 Old 01-14-2015, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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Nevermind. I can't get it to attach. Sorry.
I am trying to find a thread regarding the different opinions regarding the proper age to begin riding a horse. Can anyone help?
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