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post #21 of 31 Old 01-16-2015, 07:20 AM
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There is nothing wrong with riding a 2 year old, it is the intensity of the work that you are doing with the horse that may result in soundness issues in the future. For example a 2 year old horse should NOT be doing barrels, as they are still growing and there growth plates have not yet closed which can damage the horses joints later on in the future. However this is still not really an excuse for this horses behavior I would definitely get a veterinary check first to make sure that the horse is not in any pain.
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post #22 of 31 Old 01-16-2015, 11:34 AM
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Red face Happened To Me As Well

Hey! I totally understand how you feel!
I started leasing a horse about two years ago and I am now her main caretaker/rider. The first ride on my lease horse was good but then my lease horse started being lazy and not listening. I would leave the barn practically in tears due to being so frustrated.
It took a long time but now she is the best horse I have ever ridden. She listens so well and does anything I ask her to do.
All I did was ground work and made sure she got to know me better.
I started doing liberty and tricks with her using absolutely no force and it really helped. We both started trusting and respecting each other.
Also, I would take it extremely slow with her and congratulate her for doing very small things. I wanted her to know that I loved and cared for her.
Once we respected, trusted, and loved each other, it was so so much better.

I really hope it all works out for you. Best of luck.
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post #23 of 31 Old 01-16-2015, 02:19 PM
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First, check for any health problems. Maybe she is hurting somewhere.

It could also be that she is just new and needs time to settle in and get used to new surroundings.

Then I recommend doing a lot of groundwork. Start with the basic of basics and work your way up. She just might need to go back to school and learn to get along with a new teacher. Just be patient with her and give her time to learn.
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post #24 of 31 Old 01-18-2015, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks again, y'all! We've had a great weekend of work and she seems to be enjoying working together more each day.
I think, because she was only really kept as a barn buddy for some big amazing competition horses, that she kind of "turned off" mentally when she wasn't being stimulated. We ground worked a lot today and let a few tiny little girls have a few laps of bareback riding around the pasture with me leading her. She was great and seemed to love every second.
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post #25 of 31 Old 01-19-2015, 12:39 AM
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Well, there you are. Patience and time will work wonders...for both of you. Remember, always quit on a good note. Success builds confidence.
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post #26 of 31 Old 01-20-2015, 09:58 AM Thread Starter
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Quit on a good note, I like that! That's good advise!
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post #27 of 31 Old 01-20-2015, 02:38 PM
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These sort of horses are usually best ridden on trails with another horse for a while - be sure she has to take the lead and not just follow the horse in front, a few months of that and you can go back to working her in a manege or paddock again
If you have a Youtube channel you can link in your posts here to your videos on there
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post #28 of 31 Old 01-21-2015, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jessierose View Post
That's what I thought, too. But, both the vet that checked her out for us and my own vet who has been caring for her said that by 2 the average horse had settled enough in her joints to begin riding. I can only quote them because I don't know enough about it to speak with authority.
What age do you all wait until?
I strongly disagree with that which you were told - it is just not correct, even just considering skeletal 'maturity'. Look up Dr Deb Bennett's 'Ranger Piece' for more info on skeletal maturity. There are many other studies to learn more about development. They don't *start* developing caudal hoof strength until around 4yo either. I'd wait until 3-4yo to *lightly* start a horse under saddle, around 5-6yo to do any high impact stuff & heavy riding.
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post #29 of 31 Old 01-21-2015, 07:20 PM
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Now, she is downright stubborn...or lazy...or rebellious. I don't know! She digs in and just STANDS THERE.
WHAT DO I DO? Leg pressure doesn't phase her, kicking a bit does nothing, tapping her butt does nothing.
HELP. I am so afraid I bought a lazy horse!
Others have given you good advice. I'd start with finding a good trainer to help you learn how to teach her.

Horses are generally 'lazy' by nature, and good at working out what works & what doesn't. And out persisting humans. So whether or not she's previously learned what leg aids mean even(I'd suspect she doesn't know well at only 3yo), she has probably learned that it is easier to 'ignore it & it'll go away'. I'd be ensuring she was responsive on the ground, including to voice cues first, then having someone on the ground to 'back up' your cues when you ask her something from the saddle.
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post #30 of 31 Old 01-22-2015, 08:37 AM
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what age ???

Hi - Lots of good advice given here, I agree with all. Asking about what age to start riding a
horse, some of it depends on the breed, some mature faster than others. Warmbloods particularly take longer. But, I have bred a couple of times and I didn't start any real work
before 3 years..... not saying that your guy has been ruined by what he did at 2, just not how some of us would start one. When they are 2 I did have them ground trained and also
did some long lining, like lunging but not on a circle, saving those joints. At 3 I started light work, riding lightly but regularly (5 x week). All I wanted was to teach them to go
forward happily and learning the aids, voice transferred to seat. I think your boy is just
getting smarter and trying to do what he would prefer, and so important that you do
get his respect. I would work with a REPUTABLE trainer to help you along over this bump.
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