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post #11 of 22 Old 11-20-2014, 04:26 PM
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I wish there was someplace in that paddock to tie her too and then I could at least go out and work with the mare alone
That sounds like you're intending to tie the filly up? DON'T DO IT!!! You need to TEACH her how to yield to the halter, to stand calmly, etc, etc, before you start TEACHING her to tie up. But I think you said she's only 5 months old too, and they are actually quite easily breakable, until their bones & joints mature, so I would not hard tie a horse under about 2yo at least, AND is trained well to be tied.
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That sounds like you're intending to tie the filly up? DON'T DO IT!!! You need to TEACH her how to yield to the halter, to stand calmly, etc, etc, before you start TEACHING her to tie up. But I think you said she's only 5 months old too, and they are actually quite easily breakable, until their bones & joints mature, so I would not hard tie a horse under about 2yo at least, AND is trained well to be tied.
Sorry! I meant the mare - definitely NOT tying up the filly until we make way more progress and build up to it.
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Can you build a hitching post? Could ask if you can put one in the 'airlock' yard. If there are no good trees, strong posts or such already, wouldn't take much to dig a hole, drop in a (tall, so you can tie high) post & fill the hole with concrete. Otherwise, if there is only regular fencing that's not safe to tie solid to, you can use a 'The Clip', a 'Tie Ring' or a climbers 'figure 8', with a long lead, to be safe. I actually advise using that sort of setup until you're sure the mare 'ties well', before trying hard tying anyway. This is also the way I'd train the filly to 'tie' without the risk of actually tying.
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post #14 of 22 Old 11-21-2014, 04:45 PM
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I think that messing with the mare out with the others is your best option. Don't worry about the foal yet. She will stick close enough to the mare. Chase the others off when needed. In time, the filly will get curious and investigate you. Let her but ignore her at first. That will get her more curious. After a little while, try to pet her but just for a second then go right back to momma. Repeat and increase how long you pet on her.

I think we all agree not to tie the filly until she is halter broke. They will fight even when they are halter broke but you can still teach them to tie before they are 2. Granted that I've only dealt with 4 weanlings, once halter broke, they were taught to tie by 6 months old and none of them received any injuries from it.
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Usand, foals do indeed often suffer injuries from being tied! Heard of 'wobblers syndrome' for eg? You can(& IMO should) *teach* them to tie while young, and well taught, that should not involve much if any 'fighting' but you can do it in a safe manner, without the risk of 'hard tying'.
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At 5 months old she sounds independent, which for this situation probably isn't good lol.

Honestly at this point I'm assuming you're weaning soon and would just leave the issue until then.

Otherwise I would suggest putting them elsewhere- or if not possible section off a little area for them in the regular field. You really need to be able to work with the foal directly.
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Loosie, I'm not saying that they can't or won't get hurt if they are tied up. Even full grown horses can get hurt if they pull back or freak when tied. I was just saying that they aren't so fragile that they can't be tied up, until they are 2 as was suggested.

You can do as you wish and not hard tie them until they are older and stronger. I would rather that they learn earlier, when it is less likely for them to have enough strength to break free than to correct an older horse that will more likely break free if they pull back.

We have a mare that gets panic attacks on rare occasions. She can be tied for hours and is just fine. Then for no reason visible, she panics and pulls back. She has broken many lead ropes and tie downs doing this. She was about 15 when we got her and has done it since she was 2. We have gotten her so her panic attacks are few and far between and we usually can get her out of them if we can catch it right away. But they still can happen. She knows that something will give when she pulls back since it has happened so many times and for so long. Luckily, she has never been hurt, even though she has gone over backwards when she did it. A few times she was saddled too. Those were before we got her. So, even an older horse that has been taught to be tied can pull back or fight it. Just saying.
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You can do as you wish and not hard tie them until they are older and stronger. I would rather that they learn earlier, when it is less likely for them to have enough strength to break free than to correct an older horse that will more likely break free if they pull back.
I DID indeed say to *teach* the foal to tie. I absolutely think that's a good idea. Just that you can do it in a safe manner, with a rope wrapped around a rail or tree branch, or with one of those contraptions I mentioned, and there really is very little need to hard tie a foal and they need to be well trained first anyway. Yes, any horse can suffer serious injury, if not well trained, but immature horses ARE physically more at risk. They are more 'fragile'.
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You are right that they should be taught when young. I think that is part of halter training.

I'm not saying to just go and tie them up and let them figure it out on their own. What I am saying is that if you trained a horse to be tied, you should be able to tie them. Their age shouldn't matter.
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Thanks Loosie for the suggestions - I had seen the "Tie Ring" but couldn't remember what it was called to order one. At this point, I'm getting incredibly frustrated at the situation. The barn owners are coming out tomorrow to try and help us figure out how to get mine back in the smaller field.

By catching the mare and bringing her down, when the filly wasn't staying super close, we accidentally made the mare weary of being caught. We can approach her, and she'll actually come up to us too, but at the first sight of a lead rope, she turns and leaves.

Hopefully tomorrow we can figure out how to get them down - possibly corralling the entire herd into the smaller pen and releasing them one at a time, but that's something the barn owners need to be present for.

To make matters worse, the filly lost her halter. It was a break-away/safety halter, so I'm assuming that it worked as it was supposed to, but we couldn't find it anywhere in the field to try and figure out what she got it caught on in the first place.

Trying not to get discouraged, but I'm pretty frustrated at the moment...fingers crossed we can gather them up again tomorrow.
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