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post #11 of 17 Old 11-02-2014, 11:52 PM
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Are you sure his motives are completely above board? Sure hope so.



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post #12 of 17 Old 11-03-2014, 01:42 AM
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Can I come and work with you? Sounds like an amazing place that has the facilities to let you keep your horses at work!
It sounds like her issue of being stubborn and not wanting to move out on her own can be dealt with providing you can be sure there are no medical issues. Are you going to have her vet checked before taking ownership? Might be a good idea.
Another thought I had was that would there be dramas down the line if for some reason you decided to move her elsewhere. Although if she was yours on paper it wouldn't matter too much but something to think about if he might object.
I think as long as you feel she is suitable for your riding level right now then go for it. If not then maybe weigh up whether the bonus of no initial purchase cost is worth it. You may end up getting frustrated with a horse that won't go anywhere alone.
Perhaps you could get someone with more experience on her and get them to 'push her buttons' i.e make her ride out a short distance on her own. It would be good for you to know whether she cracks under that sort of pressure and whether it brings out any other behaviour like rearing or spinning and possibly bolting.
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Can I come and work with you? Sounds like an amazing place that has the facilities to let you keep your horses at work!
It sounds like her issue of being stubborn and not wanting to move out on her own can be dealt with providing you can be sure there are no medical issues. Are you going to have her vet checked before taking ownership? Might be a good idea.
Another thought I had was that would there be dramas down the line if for some reason you decided to move her elsewhere. Although if she was yours on paper it wouldn't matter too much but something to think about if he might object.
I think as long as you feel she is suitable for your riding level right now then go for it. If not then maybe weigh up whether the bonus of no initial purchase cost is worth it. You may end up getting frustrated with a horse that won't go anywhere alone.
Perhaps you could get someone with more experience on her and get them to 'push her buttons' i.e make her ride out a short distance on her own. It would be good for you to know whether she cracks under that sort of pressure and whether it brings out any other behaviour like rearing or spinning and possibly bolting.
Great advise, she checked 2 weeks ago as well. all clean
I don't think he would object down the line if I needed too either. but I can board her here for free so it would be silly to move her. I do not really have a riding level yet ... I have been on her 3 times lol
her owner now can get her going pretty good with a lot of convincing but much better in a group of horses as well. she has never displayed any rearing or spinning. She is a very calm horse and not spooked very easily either. I went to go see her for the 4th time this morning and she came right to me after a few minutes and with some talking and whistling.
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post #14 of 17 Old 11-04-2014, 12:39 AM
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Sounds like you've bonded with her all ready so whatever advice you receive probably won't matter much. As others have said, she sounds spoiled or is herd bound. My advice is to make sure you use more leg. I really don't think if you're beginning to be on a horse that follows is a problem. Work on building your balance and your leg and then you can work on getting her to move without the help of other horses.
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post #15 of 17 Old 11-04-2014, 01:56 AM
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Great advise, she checked 2 weeks ago as well. all clean
I don't think he would object down the line if I needed too either. but I can board her here for free so it would be silly to move her. I do not really have a riding level yet ... I have been on her 3 times lol
her owner now can get her going pretty good with a lot of convincing but much better in a group of horses as well. she has never displayed any rearing or spinning. She is a very calm horse and not spooked very easily either. I went to go see her for the 4th time this morning and she came right to me after a few minutes and with some talking and whistling.
In that case it all sounds great! Looking forward to updates and hopefully some photos, congratulations on becoming a horse owner
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post #16 of 17 Old 11-08-2014, 03:50 PM
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A horse that won't move forward is a red flag, in my opinion. Lazy? Maybe. But just as likely, she doesn't respect the rider and feels she is dominant over him. When you can't get a horse to move forward and you persist, (spurs, crop, etc.) you don't necessarily get what you want. Sounds like she needs an experienced rider w/ good command of the reins and use of his/her legs.
If you do decide to take this on I would start with gaining respect from the ground. You say she is nice on the ground, but that is not transferring to the saddle. Is she nice on the ground because you are petting her, feeding her etc? Or is she nice on the ground in the round pen, on the lunge line, and when she is being asked to work, turn, stop, back up, etc. ?
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post #17 of 17 Old 11-08-2014, 06:35 PM
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Does she work in the round pen/on the long line? Will she walk, trot, lope, stop and turn in to you? If you can't make her move there it's a respect issue most likely. If she does, I wonder if it's possible that she was never taught the cues properly. Or it's possible that it's a pain issue. I had a made that was the opposite. She would try to bolt everywhere when I rode her with a saddle. I bought her with this problem, intending to fix it. Half of it was a training problem but the other half was the fact that she had shark fin withers and the saddle would rub her withers. She was pretty much an angel bareback. I bought a new saddle then we started her retraining and she was good to go after seeing a chiro.

Then I also had a gelding who was stubborn and stood there. He knew the cues. I found the best way to "unstick" his feet was to move him into a turn rather than attemt to move him straight forward. Once I had his feet going he would work fine.

If I were you I would work with her in the round pen and make sure she learns the verbal cues really well. That way you can transfer that to the saddle. Keep with the saying of 'soft as possible but as firm as necessary".
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