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post #21 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 09:54 AM
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1. Some horses are a lot longer on temperance before they start "trying" the rider or, finally "lose it" with a rider's lack of ability. Lack of ability can often include experienced rider's who are too busy showing out to impress friends or prospective buyers.

1.1 a horse gets a lesson every time a human approaches it, good or bad.

2. My lifelong philosophy, as a horse owner and being raised on a dairy farm, if it has a heart and pumps blood, it's unpredictable.

The only 100% safe horses are found the wall mart shelf of stuffed animals
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post #22 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 10:21 AM
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Take your time, you'll find one, and like many others said, you've come across the wackos who are selling bombs marked as fluffy bunny slippers; But also watch out if you do find a ' bomb proof' horse!! Some people drug them, It's happened to my family, with our very first horse, who after digging through her owner history, found out she was an ex race horse :3 so if you do find a calm Laid back horse, make multiple visits, And Even show up a bit early to a met and great... That's what I did last Sunday before I bought my big boy Tonto, we were scared he was drugged cause he was so laid back an calm lol he wasn't luckily and is a super sweet 15yr old. He's a big change from my other mare, who I consider a great horse! Others might not though really, because she has her spooking problem, and has given me a concussion back in 2011, but hey I still consider her an awesome mare, for me that is, she could be someone else's nightmare lol

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post #23 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 10:28 AM
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Thanks for your replies, it's nice to hear about your experiences.

I know no horse is ever 100% safe if they are frightened by something, but it has seemed to me that some horses will buck and bolt for little to no reason. And it has seemed that a lot of owners have thought that they were safe for a new-ish rider.

It's actually shaken my confidence, even though in my own riding I've not experienced anything terrible, just seeing what these horses are doing to their owners whilst their owners declare how safe they are has been giving me pause for thought.
My horse is pretty darn safe, but it's because he has a GOOD mind set and trained to the hilt. He's never bucked, bolted, reared, spooked under saddle etc. Any horse can be startled but it depends on what they do when they are startled.

The horses you mentioned are just poorly trained and bad minded. Keep looking.
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post #24 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 10:29 AM
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Also, the common wisdom goes that horses that are sold usually have at least one thing wrong because the best horses are kept, not sold or bartered off to the next owner.
not true. They might have something 'wrong' in the owners eyes, but many times the owner trains and resells, breeds, likes starting colts, was given a horse, had something change in their life, or for some reason no longer has the money. There are many, many reasons people sell. I have sold several because I like training, but wanted to move on to another horse to start when it was doing well under saddle. I have sold horses because I bought them young and they didn't turn out to be exactly what I wanted, or they were too short or tall, or we didn't get along extremely well personality wise, so didn't really enjoy each others company. I have even sold a horse because she was too easy to train and I got bored. I bought a horse(my current arab mare) that had a couple minor issues. The old owner practically gave her away. she needed work on standing for the farrier, wont take any medication by mouth and had a bit of a hard mouth. A tiny bit of effort to fix those things and she is the best horse you could ask for. Sound, sane, safe, safe, safe, I would trust her with my life. Never thought of bolting, bucking or rearing.

OP, I have sold many horses, for myself and friends, and I have never had a horse throw me while showing or throw a buyer. I have sold very few horses that I advertised as beginner safe, and they were virtually bomb proof and never offered to bolt, buck, rear or kick.

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I've just been frankly shocked at how many people will declare a horse 'safe' even after it bucked them off and bolted (and not for any good reason, either, just because it didn't feel like being ridden). How on earth can you think your horse is safe if it just turfed you off and hightailed it?
there are lots of lying scums out there, in every profession, hobby and circumstance. For every seller that lies there is a buyer that over estimates their own abilities, lies about their skill level and tries to take whatever they can from the situation. I've been scammed by several buyers. I've had many come out that think its fun to come for a free ride on a weekend. I've had small items go missing after a buyer visits. I've come to feel that its "person beware" in every circumstance. Unfortunately it sounds like you found some of the bad sellers first.

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Some horses are a lot longer on temperance before they start "trying" the rider or, finally "lose it" with a rider's lack of ability.
this is true. If you want beginner safe, make sure beginners have ridden the horse many times successfully before.
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post #25 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 11:43 PM
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not true.
That is why I said "the common wisdom."

It is oft heard, however, it is not the end all be all of horse selling/buying.

As Golden Horse already stated in much better words: one man's trash is another man's treasure in some cases.
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post #26 of 79 Old 06-12-2014, 11:55 PM Thread Starter
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Anyway, I wouldn't want to give my money to an instructor who sits on a chair all time.
I am also in the market for a new instructor, problem is around here, you need a horse to have an instructor. Not a lot of lesson horses.
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Could you ask your trainer if they know of anyone selling a good horse for you? They are usually a little more expensive because people know when they have a good one and usually don't want to let them go unless life circumstances force them to.
My trainer is heavily invested in students not owning their own horses. I'm looking for a more supportive one at the moment. I think my trainer has given me a good grounding, but I also think that I've probably hit the limit of what I'll get out of those lessons.
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Oops double post.
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Take your time, you'll find one, and like many others said, you've come across the wackos who are selling bombs marked as fluffy bunny slippers; But also watch out if you do find a ' bomb proof' horse!! Some people drug them, It's happened to my family, with our very first horse, who after digging through her owner history, found out she was an ex race horse :3
This worries me too. How awful if you bought a drugged horse! Seems to me that would be illegal, but you'd probably have to have blood drawn before sale to prove it.
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post #30 of 79 Old 06-13-2014, 12:34 AM
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In a way you can look at a horse like a car. Some are easier to control than others,some are more reliable than others, and some are safer than others. The problem is that any of them can kill you if things go very wrong. The problem with horses is that what you see is often not what you get. A horse that seems like a sweetheart can have emotional problems and blow up with too much pushing. Just take your time and look at a lot of horses. There are some that are really nice.
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