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post #61 of 79 Old 06-18-2014, 03:05 AM
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Horses are very good at assessing people. They instinctively know when they can get away with things and when they cannot.

Some horses will take advantage whilst others will not.

I have seen some fantastic things with therapy horses and ponies yet, when being ridden by a 'rider' they have been toe rags and taken advantage. Ditto with small children.

One big hunter I had, he was well mannered, would when being led to the field by a four year old child walk at the end of the hater rope, not dragging but giving plenty of distance. He never took his eyes off that boy, and if the child turned back then he would wait, then turn so there was no danger of the child getting a foot trodden on.
They do know and when given responsibility, will take that seriously.
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I purchased 4 of what I consider to be safe horses over the last 3 years. They range in age from 13 to 20, all were fairly local, and none were too expensive. None are for sale now or for the foreseeable future. Two are suitable for any level of rider, one needs a firm rider, and one needs a confident rider. Relating to a post about lessons my daughter has taken lessons for 5 years or so and in that time I'm sure I've learned as much as she has. We've both learned much more from being responsible for the health and well being of our own horses living in our pasture. I guess I got lucky in picking 4 good ones despite my relative inexperience. I decided what I wanted and set a reasonable budget. Several of the other lesson families bought cheap horses with issues, most of which haven't been corrected with expensive professional training. My horses have actually gotten safer as we've learned their quirks and they've learned what we expect from them. Good safe horses are out there and sometimes even for sale. You just have to use common sense and be patient when looking.
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post #63 of 79 Old 06-18-2014, 04:25 PM
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I have one more suggestion too.. I know the op said they weren't necessarily happy w/ their trainer and the trainer was invested in the riders NOT owning their own horses...

but that other trainers required students to have their own horse.

Well, maybe approach the trainers what require students to have their own horse and say you want to lesson with them and need assistance in purchasing a horse. Most trainers will take a commission to help you.

I am always one foot into the horse buying market (although right now I'm in a 6 month lease so I'm set for the moment, but I'm sure after I will be considering it again) - but I could not imagine buying a horse w/o a professional opinion.

Trials are great as people have mentioned, if you can get them. As others mentioned too.. in order to have a better shot of the seller approving the trail, you'll want to work w/ that reputable trainer who can vouch for the horses care while on trial. So just another reason to work with a professional if it's possible.

Re: any of my advice - Happy to give my two cents, but not an expert... just a girl who loves riding horses!
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Horses are horses. Even the most experienced horses can have a breaking point. Contact a well known local trainer to help you. You can trust a horse and it can trust you but there is always a risk.
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post #65 of 79 Old 06-23-2014, 01:51 AM
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My mom's friend has a 100% safe horse.

He's 26. He's the picture of bomb proof. You can read a book on him. Nothing scares him. Like, the field by their house caught on fire and he was like, "Sup fire?"

Nothing phases him. I've been riding with them since I can remember and I have never once seen him so much as toss his head or stare at anything.

Plus he's so stocky that you would have to try really hard to fall off lol

BUT he's like, super rare.
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Living is risky business, even without horses.
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Sad day...that 100% safe horse I posted about? Well there was a storm today and he and his pasture mate were struck by lightning. So that 100% safe horse is no more.
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Sad day...that 100% safe horse I posted about? Well there was a storm today and he and his pasture mate were struck by lightning. So that 100% safe horse is no more.
Bummer!

I had a pretty much bomb proof Mustang. The only time he lost a guest rider was when they rode him under a too-low tree. He was bomb proof, not idiot proof, lol.

Unfortunately he died of colic. Why do the good ones always seem to die before their time?

But yes, they may be hard to find, but there really ARE safe horses out there. I've owned a couple. That mustang would actually take care of you. He was the only horse I ever met that would actually look out for his rider. He was one in a million.

I would say the other one was my very first horse. A lazy Arabian gelding. He generally didn't move fast enough to be dangerous.


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My girl is one I would consider "safe" at 12 years old, but she will still spook and throw her legs out or dance sideways when something freaky passes by. She's never bucked, reared, or done anything to hurt me (bite, strike, etc). She's half draft and half arabian, so I guess you could call her "room-temperature-blooded". :) I happily put kids on her after I've gotten her tired. I wouldn't put an inexperienced person on her without her being tired first because when she trots she takes off very fast and she's very sensitive to leg pressure. These were things I noticed during my test ride of her, but I knew it was something I could handle, so I bought her. Now she's learning "trot" doesn't meant "trot like a bat out of hell".

To me, horseback riding means always being prepared for the unexpected. You can never be lazy-minded when on or around a horse, or that's the time you'll get stomped on or fall off. Even with an easy-does-it horse, they never lose that vision of themselves as prey and they are wired to survive.

I have NEVER seen a horse-for-sale ad that said any of the following things, even though obviously there are plenty of horses for sale that these phrases would describe:

1. Is almost impossible to catch.
2. Will rear whenever you ask him to do something he doesn't want.
3. Tends to bite anyone who gets close enough.
4. Bucks like a bronco even with a perfectly fit saddle.
5. Never met a human he didn't feel like kicking.
6. Will bolt for no reason whatsoever and be impossible to stop.
7. Best for a rider who can dive headfirst out of the saddle and roll.
8. Is pushy, aggressive, and disrespectful of all humans.
9. Harasses all other animals who he comes into contact with.
10. Will purposely step on your foot any chance it gets.

This is why at least one test-ride visit (not on a longe line) and a thorough vet check are musts when horse shopping. If you're not an experienced rider, bring one with you. That's what I did. We both rode the horse, and asked the owner to ride her. When the owner won't get on, that's a big danger signal!

“When I bestride him, I soar, I am a hawk: he trots the air; the earth sings when he touches it; the basest horn of his hoof is more musical than the pipe of Hermes. ” ~ William Shakespeare
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Sad day...that 100% safe horse I posted about? Well there was a storm today and he and his pasture mate were struck by lightning. So that 100% safe horse is no more.
Aww, that's so sad. I'm so sorry for your loss.

“When I bestride him, I soar, I am a hawk: he trots the air; the earth sings when he touches it; the basest horn of his hoof is more musical than the pipe of Hermes. ” ~ William Shakespeare
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