A follow up thread prompted by the discussion that the term green on green equals black and blue is an insult https://www.horseforum.com/new-horses...longer-389874/
your thoughts on that topic should be added over there.
This one a whole new thought especially for those buying their first horse..
First of all GREEN: I am an experienced rider in terms of years, started lessons at 6 had 10 years of tuition, which I really enjoyed. Looking back now, I spent 10 years having fun at the cheapest place my parents could find, getting poor instruction, doing crazy things, all it gave me was the ability to stick. I then had many years off and on, riding other peoples horses having a ball thinking I was all that and change
Then I had time off while I had the kids, and came back a few years later, went for a private lesson at my first real barn, and OH what a shock, I soon found out what I didn't know and started learning again, now having to overcome bad habits. Then I had a few horses of my own, switched to Western, had a few lessons, rode alone a lot, few more lessons, very basic, and I was good to go....yeah right.
Now we move to Canada, I buy myself a western horse, ride on my own for a while, go for some lessons to get some help, and somehow get converted back toward English, by a trainer who I now know made my probably already poor hands HORRIBLE. I can't imagine what my poor trained horses went through, but I know that it hurt my green horse.
So here I am many years riding, and I bought Big Ben, 9 years old and only just backed, thought I could work with him myself, and with my trainer WRONG, just WRONG, I did that horse a disservice, I should never have bought him, in the right hands he would have done well, in my slightly nervous heavy hands, well green on green was inevitably heading to black and blue, and in my case broken, like a month in hospital broken. If you have a trainer holding your hand each and every step of the way, MAYBE you can get away with it, but learning together is the worst thing out.
But what about the green on gold? Well this weekend I went to my first reining clinic, the first time I have had any instruction in reining, and if you have never tried it GO TRY, IT's A TOTAL BLAST!! In the morning I rode Bailey a big stock paint, so comfortable, so much fun, I was getting to feel like I was really getting this. In the afternoon I was upgraded to a trained reiner, he has won lots with a youth rider, I have seen them run, he is a great horse, I was very excited. Well it was a disaster, he is such a well tuned athlete that the fuzzy, slightly off time, cues I was giving him upset him, as he got upset I got nervous, which made me tighten up, and start trying to hang onto his mouth. We dropped his curb and tried a snaffle, but that wasn't much better, he was still very unhappy with me. So I got to swap back onto the baby sitter.
The point of this story?
When you are horse shopping be totally honest about your skill level, both with sellers and more importantly with yourself. Riding should be fun, and if you buy too much horse it quickly can stop being fun and end up being a train wreck. There is nothing wrong with that rare gem of a horse, the confidence giver, one who is trained enough that he will try and do whatever you ask, but not so highly trained that he gets in a panic if he doesn't understand just what it is that you want.
When shopping for your first horse,buy the horse that you need NOW, not the one you will need later.