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post #31 of 46 Old 12-06-2015, 10:55 AM Thread Starter
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This may sound really judgmental - I don't know you and don't want to be rude, but a 1500$ budget for a first horse is really, really low. Can I ask why so cheap? You are a beginner, therefore you need a very well-trained horse. Owning a horse will probably cost you about 10,000$ a year, minimum, if you're boarding it. It seems like you'd be better off investing in a well-trained horse from the start (in my part of the world, you can get one of these for 3000-4000$ if you're not fussy about looks or breed) than buying a horse that is going to require a lot of fixing. Horse training involves hiring experts to work with your horse. That gets very expensive very fast. Why pay 1500$ for a horse which you'll have to sink another 3000$ to finish training when you can just get a trained, proven horse and just enjoy riding?
A lot of horse are around that budget actually or a bit higher. I mean I'm willing to up to 2000 if it's the right fit and everything. I also ride western not english so that could be a difference in that.
I'm not super picky about the breed or looks. I mean...if I could...I'd like an Arab but..that could be quiet a challenge(for few reasons).
Plus I have a coach too so yeah
The horse I ride right now my coach got for a dollar, there is minor issues such as she does have founders(she's a Arab) and arthritis a bit but she was an ex jumper schooling horse but now doesn't do any jumping.
Another horse she got was 1000 and he was a bit of a rescue situation
She told me depending on different things, you can get a horse from free to lots of money.

UPDATE:
Myself, My coach(and possibly another boarder who is has a horse and experience) is hopefully going to see the horse next weekend!
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Yes, you can get a horse for free or really cheap. Your trainer did, but she is a trainer and can work through issues. I assume if she's going to train your horse for you, you will have to pay her. Unlikely she will do it for free. Having a coach and BEING a trainer are two vastly different things. Given that you haven't even figured out where the horse is going to live, I'm guessing you haven't worked out the details of how much it will cost and what your horse trainer will charge to help you retrain a problem horse or train a green one. It's unlikely she will want to just give you her time.

I guess I'm just saying that often, people try to save money on the purchase price of the horse and it ends up costing them a lot more in the long run. Most people in here will tell you, buying the horse is the least expensive part of horse ownership!

And when I say 3000-4000$ for a well-trained horse, I mean English or Western. Of course that will vary a lot depending on where you live, but that's what you have to pay in our area just to get a reliable, safe horse. Which, if you are a beginner rider, is what you should really be looking for.

Very wise of you to bring your coach along to see this other horse!
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Yes, you can get a horse for free or really cheap. Your trainer did, but she is a trainer and can work through issues. I assume if she's going to train your horse for you, you will have to pay her. Unlikely she will do it for free. Having a coach and BEING a trainer are two vastly different things. Given that you haven't even figured out where the horse is going to live, I'm guessing you haven't worked out the details of how much it will cost and what your horse trainer will charge to help you retrain a problem horse or train a green one. It's unlikely she will want to just give you her time.

I guess I'm just saying that often, people try to save money on the purchase price of the horse and it ends up costing them a lot more in the long run. Most people in here will tell you, buying the horse is the least expensive part of horse ownership!

And when I say 3000-4000$ for a well-trained horse, I mean English or Western. Of course that will vary a lot depending on where you live, but that's what you have to pay in our area just to get a reliable, safe horse. Which, if you are a beginner rider, is what you should really be looking for.

Very wise of you to bring your coach along to see this other horse!
I'm going to keep the horse at my coach's place and she knows how to train horses as she has a lot of experience with horses and everything. Plus she does have some students who will do it for free too as they are more advance riders and love to ride.
I'm not going to get a green horse at all(or try my best not to! Hence why my coach will be coming) I'm not particular looking for a young horse either. I'm looking for one that's more likely 10 year-20years old
I don't live in a too much expensive area really. Plus the horse lives outside too that's another factor so board is cheaper.

Within reason, I'm pretty sure my coach if she gets a new/another horse that needs some work, she usually get her students to do it.
Trust me, with any animal, the buying price is the cheapest thing. I own dogs myself.
Another update:
Horse got sold to it's old owner so it's no longer an option but that's okay. I'm a patient person and willing to wait for the right one to fall in my hands.
The horse that this original thread was about is available again but...I'm pretty sure the owner wants to do a quick sell to help her with vet costs of the other horse...
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Budget is a difficult one, it s what it is, if that is all you can spend, then you have to buy to fit the budget, BUT, remember that smaller price tags usually come with some sort of issue.

I paid $1500 for my new mare, why? Well she has a few issues, hadn't been used for 2 years, because the owner was at college, and she isn't the best built mare in the world. She is also 15, and was not advertised, got her through my trainer. This time last year it would have been a BAD buy for me, this year I am ready to deal with her.

Now as to $1 horse with founder and arthritis, it can get very expensive very quickly managing and treating some conditions.

Anyway good luck, listen to your trainer, hope you find what you are looking for
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Budget is a difficult one, it s what it is, if that is all you can spend, then you have to buy to fit the budget, BUT, remember that smaller price tags usually come with some sort of issue.

I paid $1500 for my new mare, why? Well she has a few issues, hadn't been used for 2 years, because the owner was at college, and she isn't the best built mare in the world. She is also 15, and was not advertised, got her through my trainer. This time last year it would have been a BAD buy for me, this year I am ready to deal with her.

Now as to $1 horse with founder and arthritis, it can get very expensive very quickly managing and treating some conditions.

Anyway good luck, listen to your trainer, hope you find what you are looking for
There is some stretch in the budget if needed...but I'd probably to really like the horse(I know I should anyways but...) and really truly think it's worth it. Like I said, I am not picking at all. I'm patient person who is just waiting for the right horse. Honestly, as time goes on and on, the budget could increase more or it could just stay the same. All depends on where I'm at.

The Arab isn't too bad, I've been riding for like 3-4 months(one or two weeks missed in total) and she is used quiet often(she's like a very very good beginner horse) Of course she's is generally used for like kids(my coach usually has a lead lope to help guide her and stuff) All I know is the horse can't have grass or a lot of grass so my coach has certain places where there is no grass or very little so it works for her. Not once was I not able to ride her either.

I'm sure my coach will keep an eye out for me as she does know me best and know what to look for me too and I trust/value her opinion

I'm not looking to due a ton of stuff. It's somewhat just for companionship and fun. With maybe some shows but it's western trail/pleasure from what I've seen in videos, it's nothing all that fast.

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What's everyone's opinion on rescue horse?(that is clearly safe for a beginner and everything)
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Pass on him. He Needs an educated rider. You, with even a good trainer, will confuse him.
Step back and look for a schoolmaster, who can tolerate your riding mistakes and will teach YOU how to ride better. Many show people move up and sell their good horses who have been there/done that. The horse has the Quickest reaction time of any domestic animal. I lost my temper with an OTTB that I had and yelled at him. He wheeled around in the stall and kicked with BOTH hooves on the stall wall next to me quicker than you can read this sentence. Had I been in the way, I wouldn't have been here to write this. If you take a green horse out trail riding and he gets frightened, you'll be off of him (Hopesfully) as he tears back to the stable. He might, instead, run you under a tree limb or under the roof of the barn opening, all with disastrous and sometimes fatal results.
My DH learned to ride on a 15yo QH/TWH cross. This horse taught him SO MUCH and he loved him for it. He lived to be 28yo, and my DH enjoyed him for a long time.
Green horse + Green rider really does equal Black and Blue.
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Pass on him. He Needs an educated rider. You, with even a good trainer, will confuse him.
Step back and look for a schoolmaster, who can tolerate your riding mistakes and will teach YOU how to ride better. Many show people move up and sell their good horses who have been there/done that. The horse has the Quickest reaction time of any domestic animal. I lost my temper with an OTTB that I had and yelled at him. He wheeled around in the stall and kicked with BOTH hooves on the stall wall next to me quicker than you can read this sentence. Had I been in the way, I wouldn't have been here to write this. If you take a green horse out trail riding and he gets frightened, you'll be off of him (Hopesfully) as he tears back to the stable. He might, instead, run you under a tree limb or under the roof of the barn opening, all with disastrous and sometimes fatal results.
My DH learned to ride on a 15yo QH/TWH cross. This horse taught him SO MUCH and he loved him for it. He lived to be 28yo, and my DH enjoyed him for a long time.
Green horse + Green rider really does equal Black and Blue.
I have officially passed on the OTTB
What's your views on a possibly rescue horse?(that is beginner safe and whatnot) or is it still too risky?
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What's everyone's opinion on rescue horse?(that is clearly safe for a beginner and everything)
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Impossible question to answer, could be OK, could be a disaster waiting to happen.

First not all rescues are created equal, there are reliable and trustworthy rescues, and there are people posing as rescues to tug at a persons heart strings while flipping horses at a profit.

Second, a lot of rescue horses come with some sort of baggage, either in terms of health or training, so once again you can have a bigger cost ongoing.

Third, a 'clearly beginner safe' horse, who is underweight or unfit, may clearly NOT be beginner safe once back to full health and fitness.

Horse riding should be fun and problem free, not risky and problematic. SO, I would advise you not shopping on your own, get your trainer involved...I am the poster child for buying cheap horses, and it nearly got me killed. The last two were trainer found and both are spot on what I wanted.

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Impossible question to answer, could be OK, could be a disaster waiting to happen.

First not all rescues are created equal, there are reliable and trustworthy rescues, and there are people posing as rescues to tug at a persons heart strings while flipping horses at a profit.

Second, a lot of rescue horses come with some sort of baggage, either in terms of health or training, so once again you can have a bigger cost ongoing.

Third, a 'clearly beginner safe' horse, who is underweight or unfit, may clearly NOT be beginner safe once back to full health and fitness.

Horse riding should be fun and problem free, not risky and problematic. SO, I would advise you not shopping on your own, get your trainer involved...I am the poster child for buying cheap horses, and it nearly got me killed. The last two were trainer found and both are spot on what I wanted.
Alright thank you
I mean any horse that I would/could be interested in then I'd send the info to my trainer/coach to see her opinion then go see the horse with her/the experience rider. Typically...my distance willing to travel is probably 2 hours max(It could be more for the right horse clearly but it'd be harder to my coach to come as this isn't her full time job)
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