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post #31 of 43 Old 01-13-2017, 12:30 AM
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i know that the 'off side' means the right, but it was just a bit confusing as I thought you might have meant, in a sort of shorthand version "off in the hind". in a general sense .
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I went back after work to do some more walking around bareback with him. I'm hoping getting him out so he can stretch his legs as often as I can will help him recover. I'm 95% sure it's just muscle soreness, since he's fine at the walk and there's absolutely no heat/swelling in his legs, but that doesn't stop me from worrying, especially since it's been a few days now. I go back and forth between which hind I think it is, too, but then I usually end up thinking "well, his whole butt is probably sore". Can't wait to hear what the massage/chiro lady says tomorrow.

I keep thinking I should start a journal, but I already have a blog...

At this point I've decided to switch back to my regular cavesson. I fussed with adjusting the figure 8, but I couldn't really find a position I really liked it in... and honestly, I think I'd be kind of sad if I really did manage to completely stop him from sticking his tongue out. His tongueness has grown on me—it's part of his character!

He's going fine with the bit a hole lower (but then again, we're only walking about LOL).

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I had the chance to actually MEET Stephani where she boards her horse.
Thanks for coming out, I had a really good time! It's always nice to meet someone new that I can talk to horses about, and I'm really looking forward to getting the chance to ride on the trails with you at some point. :)

I like the stuff you had to say about bit choice for him. I'm open to trying out the Myler-type D-ring with the curve, but I don't love the idea of spending $100 without knowing how he's going to like it (or in general, dang that's expensive!). Also curious about their competition legality (though not a huge deal, since I am just doing schooling shows) and the difference Ezhno will feel with no joint (compared to the single joint he has now).

I wish he could just tell me what he'd prefer (and what part of him hurts). Sometimes life would be so much easier if horses could talk.

EDIT: it's more like "Stef-uh-ni", but no worries!
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post #33 of 43 Old 01-13-2017, 01:56 AM
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maybe a knockoff type bit that isn't so pricey?

was fun to meet you and your horse. he's a lovely boy and you are a loving, caring owner, for sure.! hope we can ride together soon.
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@tinyliny (or anyone else, haha): Thoughts on the curved JP Korsteel D-ring as an alternative to the super expensive level 1 Myler you posted in the pics? The curves seems about comparable, the JP Korsteel is just way cheaper and it still has the single joint. Smartpak's also really good about taking returns if the bit doesn't work for him. Aesthetically I wish the D's were smaller, though.

I'm so sick of thinking about bits, LOL.
Especially since I can't test drive any of them anyways, since the doof is broken
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post #35 of 43 Old 01-13-2017, 11:41 AM
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I use a similar bit to the one Tinyliny showed on Honey - I originally used it because I ride her in a Kineton noseband and the D design keeps it in place but I soon found that she's a lot more comfortable in it than in anything else we've ever tried.
The horse looks very stiff in the 'off' hind - could be a muscle tightness or could be a hip or stifle thing. Magnesium deficiency can cause muscle cramps and sore and tight muscles

Just winging it is not a plan
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I also use a D ring, when I ride HUS
Since I always show my hroses western first, where no cavassons are allowed, my horses learn to work with a quiet and relaxed closed mouth, all on their own. Soon as a horse becomes 'more trained', learns to carry a bit, relaxes, he does not need a cavasson to keep his mouth closed and quiet.
Thus, when I do move that horse on to showing HUS also, I have that cavasson on just tight enough not to look sloppy, but don't 'need' it, to have my horse work with a closed , quiet and relaxed mouth.
I think, it really does help, if you train ahrose first, in a discipline where cavassons are not legal, and you become more tuned in to bit adjustment, allowing ahrose to carry a bit where it is comfortable for him, learn to relax and work with a closed and quiet mouth all on his own, versus trying to 'force it'
Yes, that bit is way too high, JMO. When you adjust a bit like that, it already has pressure, before you even take contact with the reins, and also never gives that total bit release
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Alright, I went ahead and bit the bullet (bit the bit? lol) and ordered a level 1 Myler D-ring. I was really on the edge about the whole thing, but I talked to one of my trainer duo and she was enthusiastically in support of how a Myler bit fits in the mouth. That plus the fact that I had a 20% off coupon made me throw caution to the wind. I've ordered a 5.5", but Riding Warehouse has a wonderful returns policy, so if it doesn't fit how I want it to I can send it back and get a different size instead.

Can't wait to see how it works, but first Ezhno will have to be sound... my trainers and I are all bouncing between abcess and hock/joint pain now that it's lasted past how long typical muscle pain lasts. I've got a call in with the vet to make an appointment (plus he needs his teeth checked out and I never got a PPE, so it's probably not a bad idea to establish a baseline for him).

Goodbye, $$$.

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I use a similar bit to the one Tinyliny showed on Honey
Thanks for weighing in! I was reading around on the internet and it sounds like a lot of people like the Myler-esque style of bit. It helped me feel good about spending $70 on a chunk of well-designed metal.

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Since I always show my hroses western first, where no cavassons are allowed, my horses learn to work with a quiet and relaxed closed mouth, all on their own. Soon as a horse becomes 'more trained', learns to carry a bit, relaxes, he does not need a cavasson to keep his mouth closed and quiet.
I'll think about this! I don't think I would feel comfortable riding without a cavesson (I've seen a horse have a bit pulled through his mouth by an inexperienced rider at a pony camp during my childhood and I think it sort of stuck with me), but I'll consider loosening up my cavesson when Ezhno's sound and is ready to get back into work.
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Far as a bit being pulled through the mouth, without a cavasson, that is why.on a western snaffle bit bridle you add a curb strap, that is loose and non functioning, but serves the same purpose as a cavasson
Even if you show English, I see no reason that any hrose, can't be started in a bridle without a cavasson.
I used to use one, putting it under my snaffle bridle, when I first started colts, as\i thought it was needed, in order to teach a horse to work with a closed mouth.
Wrong. When a horse is comfortable with a bit, and the hands on those reins, a good indication of this desired end point, is having that young hrose work with a quiet and closed mouth, all on his own, as he truly is allowed and learns how to pack that bit.
Can't know if you achieved that goal, using a cavasson.
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hope it fits, and you figure out why he doesn't feel good about moving his hind legs.
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Alright, so it looks like our best guess for now is that Ezhno has some sort of soft tissue injury :( :( :(
He's on bute and stall rest right now, poor guy. Can't say I'm not disappointed, but it's not like it's his fault.

BACK TO BITS. The Level 1 Myler came and I put him in it just to check out the size. I ordered a 5.5" and I'm waffling back and forth between whether or not it's too big on him and if I should send it back for a 5 1/4" instead. Part of me thinks there's too much sticking out on the sides, but part of me has read that Myler bits are designed to fit a bit bigger than normal bits are. I'm going to have my trainer look at it at some point in the next couple of days, but here's some pics:



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