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post #141 of 303 Old 05-04-2016, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, let me see if pics are working now. And yes, he's overweight AND stocky. Will require a good exercise and diet regime.

A very experienced horseperson once told me there is no such thing as a perfect horse. You just need to figure out what a horse's flaws are, and whether you're willing to live with them. If being chunky is his only flaw, I think we can deal with it.

That's my 11 yr old daughter on him.



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post #142 of 303 Old 05-04-2016, 09:18 PM
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He's adorable and I don't think he's THAT fat. Just a little pudge, and who are we to judge his slow metabolism? I think he's be a super fun horse to have in the barn! Your daughter looks great on him!
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He doesn't look as chunky with your daughter on him. It looks like they are having fun. ?
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The question mark wAs a smiley face. Lol
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post #145 of 303 Old 05-04-2016, 09:41 PM
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Glad to see you may have found "the one"!

He is really cute. I actually really like the looks of this guy.
I have to mention as well that in all the pictures I have seen of her, your daughter looks like an amazing little rider! I hope she gets the permanent horse bug, lol.

If you find a horse that was THAT good after sitting a year, definitely go for it. From my experience they are few and far in between. I would want to make sure that this horse wasn't drugged, so what I would do is pop by for a visit when I was just 'in the neighborhood', and see about taking him out one more time. From what you said about how he acted, it doesn't sound like he was drugged, but better safe than sorry!

Many horses, hard and easy keepers, tend to even out to the correct weight when put on free choice grass hay with slow feeders. My mom has a QH mare that tends to be a bit pudgier than we'd like. We built a wooden slow feed box with a NibbleNet top. My horses don't have hay bellies anymore, they look fantastic and I've had several people tell me so as well. The NibbleNet was expensive but so worth it! It even stands up to my super super destructive and playful mare.
I live in the desert, so no pasture to consider here. That was largely part of the reason I went with free choice hay. Horses are designed to eat a little bit all day long (16+hours per day grazing!).

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LOL, glad you told me. HF is confusing me these days.

Yes, I think they had fun. She could relax because she knew she could stop him. She loved his canter. I think he is just what we need to level out our barn.

But I told my daughter we shouldn't get too attached until we get a vet check. Still, something about this horse got my attention from the start. Owners are up front, not pushing a sale, asking a very reasonable price, horse appears to be everything they say he is.... we've seen a few others, but this one had the vibe I was looking for, you know? Happy, keen, interested, but totally level-headed.

Will see how quickly I can do a PPE... and technically we aren't equipped to take in another horse for at least a couple of weeks, but that's not too far off I suppose!
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Glad to see you may have found "the one"!

He is really cute. I actually really like the looks of this guy.
I have to mention as well that in all the pictures I have seen of her, your daughter looks like an amazing little rider! I hope she gets the permanent horse bug, lol.

If you find a horse that was THAT good after sitting a year, definitely go for it. From my experience they are few and far in between. I would want to make sure that this horse wasn't drugged, so what I would do is pop by for a visit when I was just 'in the neighborhood', and see about taking him out one more time. From what you said about how he acted, it doesn't sound like he was drugged, but better safe than sorry!

Many horses, hard and easy keepers, tend to even out to the correct weight when put on free choice grass hay with slow feeders. My mom has a QH mare that tends to be a bit pudgier than we'd like. We built a wooden slow feed box with a NibbleNet top. My horses don't have hay bellies anymore, they look fantastic and I've had several people tell me so as well. The NibbleNet was expensive but so worth it! It even stands up to my super super destructive and playful mare.
I live in the desert, so no pasture to consider here. That was largely part of the reason I went with free choice hay. Horses are designed to eat a little bit all day long (16+hours per day grazing!).
Thanks! We do tend to have lush grass here for a few months of the year so he may be on a dry lot at first. And yes, absolutely he would get slow-feeder nets. Will look at the NibbleNet top. Sounds like a good design!

Good plan about popping in. I think they would be totally ok with that too. But honestly, he was very alert and interested in his surroundings.

I do think my daughter is a good little rider too - thanks for saying that! She started so young, I can't help but think of how amazing she could be if she stuck with it until adulthood. But it has to be her decision of course.

She did really like this guy.
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I would love to share our feeder box design with HF, but I will have to ask hubby first. He did want to sell these at some point, but maybe sharing the design won't have any effect on that?
My horse is an Einstein. She figured out how to pull the top out of the box on numerous occasions. She would push the box under fence panels to share with neighbors. And both horses absolutely tore apart the regular slow feed nets. We didn't want to do the metal slow feed grate because I had found out those caused damage to horse's teeth. The NibbleNet was the solution.
They have several NibbleNet bags, including one that holds up to a 50# bale. You can definitely buy one that will hold a day's feeding, so you don't have to build a box. What I love about our boxes though is that our hay wastage is about 1%, and the 100# bale lasts one horse about 6 days now, instead of 4. I've never had such an easy, efficient way of feeding, and certainly never saved so much hay!

Our box design is almost done. We are just having to replace panels and add metal siding because when my mare couldn't get the top out anymore, she chewed the wood down until the side of the bale was exposed. Darn freaking smart mare. According to the stable hand, she bedded her entire stall with hay and then instead of eating what she threw out, actually ate out of the net like she was supposed to! At least she's good for a laugh, right?

You know, from what I have seen you post in the past, do you think maybe your daughter might be just a bit intimidated by the arab? Perhaps that's why she's not always so keen to ride? This paint might be the fix for that. Certainly sounds like she adored him!
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They look great together! He sounds like he could be an excellent confidence builder for your daughter so she regains the enthusiasm that she seems to have lost a little with Harley. And he would have a settling effect on Harley on the trails too.

I think the vibe you get from a seller is so important. Everything seems to point towards him being the right horse for your needs. You're so right that there is no perfect horse, it's just a question of tallying the pros and cons of each one, and this guy has most of the pros you need. He doesn't look outrageously chunky either - quite understandable if he's spent a year eating well and hanging out.

I so hope that the vet check doesn't come up with any metabolic issues because you really don't want to jump into ownership of an IR horse. But he doesn't have any fat pads which are indicative of IR - just overall a bit pudgy and a big hay belly.
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You know, from what I have seen you post in the past, do you think maybe your daughter might be just a bit intimidated by the arab? Perhaps that's why she's not always so keen to ride? This paint might be the fix for that. Certainly sounds like she adored him!
Absolutely. She is fine to ride Harley in an enclosed space, indoor or out. Because he knows what that's all about and settles down quickly into a routine. Except if she canters him - then he can get hard to stop. But for arena work at the walk/trot including extended gaits, counting strides and shortening/lengthening them, jumping, pole work and anything that requires a great deal of finesse (including dressage moves), Harley is the perfect horse. And she can get him to perform perfectly every time. I think she would be in the ribbons every time if she decides to show him. However, take him on a trail, and he falls apart. And there's the cantering issue which we're still working on.

This horse canters easily, stops easily, may not have any dressage buttons, but is rock solid and easy going. Even though my daughter doesn't ride outside arenas often (because of Harley's spookiness), she was able to ride the paint in an open area near a road even though he hadn't been ridden in a year until last week. And she appeared totally relaxed and comfortable on him as you can see from the picture.

Would love to see your wooden box plans! But I understand if your hubby wants to keep them under wraps. I very much like the idea. I am building an overhang on one side of the barn where my dutch doors go out so that would be a good place for a feeding station. However, I was talking to my trimmer and she suggested 3 slow-feeder haynets located in different corners of the paddock to encourage movement. She builds boxes on top of the haynets and nails them to a board or wall. There's a lid she can open so she just throws the hay in the net. I might do a box + a couple of nets.
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