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post #151 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 07:25 AM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Bondre View Post
They look great together! He sounds like he could be an excellent confidence builder for your daughter so she regains the enthusiasm that she seems to have lost a little with Harley. And he would have a settling effect on Harley on the trails too.

I think the vibe you get from a seller is so important. Everything seems to point towards him being the right horse for your needs. You're so right that there is no perfect horse, it's just a question of tallying the pros and cons of each one, and this guy has most of the pros you need. He doesn't look outrageously chunky either - quite understandable if he's spent a year eating well and hanging out.

I so hope that the vet check doesn't come up with any metabolic issues because you really don't want to jump into ownership of an IR horse. But he doesn't have any fat pads which are indicative of IR - just overall a bit pudgy and a big hay belly.
Hopefully it's just a big hay belly! But I'm testing for IR and Cushings anyway. Will also ask about testing for thyroid issues. Going to call the vet's office in a bit...
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post #152 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 08:22 AM
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He's adorable! and I was expecting him to be even more rotund. I bet he'll slim down just fine. Sounds like a fantastic temperament - hope PPE is great. My mare (also a paint, though lightly marked) was pudgy the first time I saw her, but they took measures to slim her down - and she was a few pounds too light by the time I bought her 6 months later. I think she's at a perfect weight now.
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Another angle with me on him. A less flattering, "butt shot" :) But if you see something I should ask the vet to look at, don't hesitate to point it out! My daughter is already looking for a name for him so if there's something wrong, we need to find out sooner rather than later. So as they say, speak now or forever hold your peace! Because once we get him home, it will be hard to return him. Not that the owners wouldn't take him back - I think they would and we'll have to see if they agree to a buy-back clause in the purchase agreement, but because it would be hard on us to let him go.

Also called the vet's office. The receptionist is going to get back to me with a date for the PPE, but I also want to chat with the vet about things we could test for. And I want to age him since I don't think he has papers. They say he's around 14, but didn't appear 100% sure. I've seen too many horses sold as teens when it turns out they're in their 20s.
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Ok, obviously still struggling with photos :(
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post #155 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 08:56 AM
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He looks great and sound ideal.
I do hope the PPE is OK, its very likely that he's overweight because he's had too much food - free access to all he wants to eat and no work.
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post #156 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 09:09 AM
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He is a beautiful horse with a kind eye. He is not a Medicine Hat. Your daughter sits him very well

Did the Seller mention whether or not that pink nose is prone to sunburn or dew poisoning? It seems some are and some are not. The ones that are, can get a good case of bumps & blisters on them.

I hope he passes the PPE.

How did you get on with the Seller?

On the subject of lush pastures -- you're still brown --- I have bush hogged once and mowed three times. I'm already tired of cutting, lol
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post #157 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 10:02 AM
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He is gorgeous! I just love a well marked paint. I would not be overly concerned about him being drugged - that comes up a lot but in reality very rarely happens. Most drugs like that leave the system fairly quickly and you can tell the horse is not quite right.

Just to second the slow feeder idea. We have them for our horses and they have bene a godsend. We have HayChix feeders in our stalls and use the HayChix bags out in the dry lot. I have old stock tanks that I just put the bags in and we have clamps so they cannot be tossed out. Since I have 4 horses in a dry lot the boxes did not seem to work well for me - the horses scraped shoulders and legs on them. So we have 4 "stations" in the dry lot and the horses move each other around. The grass is just coming in strong now for us and I really limit time out for my horses (an hour or less per day) the hay feeders help keep weight in check and any metabolic issues from the really green grass are also avoided.

Can't wait to hear how the PPE goes. Good Luck!
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I'm betting on no metabolic issues, just being a chunky pasture puff. Remember though that chunky pasture puffs CAN change as they get fitter, so he may be a different horse when he is in trim. He may be more forward etc, I found with Fergie the fitter she became, she was a 2 year fat PP when she came, the livelier she was. It doesn't change their basic personality, if he is 'nice' he will stay nice.

Good luck with the PPE hope he is the one
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Thanks all! I want to like all your posts (great suggestions on the slow feeder nets and good point, Golden, about the possibility of him having a little more energy as he becomes more fit).

Strange development - I contacted the seller to tell her we'd like to do a PPE. She started humming and hawing about selling him. She felt I hadn't ridden him long enough (I let my daughter do most of the riding because I wanted to make sure she can handle him) and because she is attached to him, doesn't want him to end up not being used or being too much horse for me to handle. She suggested we do a trail ride together next Monday. I said no problem! I'll head over in the morning and we'll ride for a couple of hours in the woods. She felt I should see what he's like in all situations and while she didn't say this, I'm pretty sure she wants to make sure I'm a good enough rider to handle him! She said that if I still want to buy him after the trail ride, I can schedule the PPE.

I can't help but feel like she's evaluating me more than I'm evaluating the horse, but you know what, I'm ok with that. I told her I have no problem riding a horse in various terrain for hours on end, but I don't have the formal training my daughter does. I may be sore afterwards, but I'm confident that I can do it. We'll get to know each other better and she can rest easy knowing she's putting her horse in a good home. It tells me she doesn't care about the money, she wants to make sure he'll be used and taken care of with us. I also told her I'd be happy to provide references from my vet, trimmer, coach, whoever! And that she's welcome to come see where he will live and continue to visit afterwards.

This is a bit of an odd turn of events, but I welcome the opportunity to spend more time with this horse and get to know him under various conditions. We are going to trailer him too, so that will also be revealing!
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post #160 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 01:10 PM
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Looks like a nice horse. and it would be great if he has a nice even temperament.
How about Rainbow for a name, you could call him Beau for short.
Hope he passes the PPE.
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