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post #161 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 01:55 PM
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[QUOTE=Acadianartist;8996481]Thanks all! I want to like all your posts (great suggestions on the slow feeder nets and good point, Golden, about the possibility of him having a little more energy as he becomes more fit).

Strange development - I contacted the seller to tell her we'd like to do a PPE. She started humming and hawing about selling him. She felt I hadn't ridden him long enough (I let my daughter do most of the riding because I wanted to make sure she can handle him) and because she is attached to him, doesn't want him to end up not being used or being too much horse for me to handle. She suggested we do a trail ride together next Monday. I said no problem! I'll head over in the morning and we'll ride for a couple of hours in the woods. She felt I should see what he's like in all situations and while she didn't say this, I'm pretty sure she wants to make sure I'm a good enough rider to handle him! She said that if I still want to buy him after the trail ride, I can schedule the PPE.


I agree a little strange but I think that should alleviate even the smallest doubt of drugging on the sellers behalf (not that you thought it had happened) Kudos to the owner for wanting the perfect match - and what that says to me is that he is the horse that she presented him to be and after he passes the PPE you are going to have a HELL Of a horse! So excited for you! And the chance at a trail ride - how awesome - now we expect pics of the trail ride.


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And the chance at a trail ride - how awesome - now we expect pics of the trail ride.


^^^^Yes we do

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Yes carshon - I can't help but think this is a good sign even though it's never happened to me before. She is far more interested in making sure we are a good match than how much money she can suck out of me (LOTS of other sellers out there like that, sadly). Two hours on him should give me plenty of chance to see what he can (and can't) do! I will, of course, bring my camera. The forecast looks good for Monday so it should be a lot of fun!

And to be honest, I opened our phone discussion by directly asking her if she was sure she was ready to sell him before I set up a PPE. I didn't want her to feel like she was being pressured. I also want to make sure I don't get a PPE just for her to back out of the sale down the road. I think it's best to alleviate her concerns now and make sure she is ready to commit to a sale.
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I'd be doing the same thing if I was selling my horse. My horse has a history of problems that I have since solved, but if with the incorrect handler she very quickly turns into a dangerous horse. She is headstrong, pushy, obstinate, alpha mare. She is smart and knows her own way, and handling her is very different from handling other horses, as I have come to find out. She most definitely requires an experienced handler and rider.

That is why I would want to make sure that the new owner could handle her before I ever finalized a sale. Not that I could ever sell my baby!

This horse is a gelding, so the alpha mare theory is out the window for him. I very much doubt he has any real issues. If my own mare had been sitting for a year, she would let you hop on and walk around without fuss. But if you started asking for any real work, trot or canter or lateral and flexing and bending, she'd probably throw a fit.

I'm sure you will find out if this horse has any lemons on a two hour trailer out ride!

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Oh, and on slow feeders:

The hanging wooden box top fill style is also a great idea. I looked at hay chix, but my horses absolutely shredded every net like that. The baling twine we used to patch the nets lasted longer than the nets themselves. NibbleNets have ridiculously heavy construction, made of nylon straps not rope or twine, so that is why they last. From what I've read and experienced myself, they are a one time buy.

You will need at least two feeding stations. Most horses won't share feed together. Some do, but I usually only see that in large herds where they buddy up.

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Oh, and on slow feeders:

The hanging wooden box top fill style is also a great idea. I looked at hay chix, but my horses absolutely shredded every net like that. The baling twine we used to patch the nets lasted longer than the nets themselves. NibbleNets have ridiculously heavy construction, made of nylon straps not rope or twine, so that is why they last. From what I've read and experienced myself, they are a one time buy.

You will need at least two feeding stations. Most horses won't share feed together. Some do, but I usually only see that in large herds where they buddy up.
My trimmer appears to have NibbleNets! - she was showing them to me when I visited her barn recently. I checked out their website and they look identical! She has built boxes on top of hers so she can just lift the top and throw in the hay which appeals to me. And yes, two, maybe even three feeding stations for sure. Because from what I've read, the problem with haynets is that the horses don't have to move around much. Clearly, this paint needs to move as much as possible! With three stations and two horses, they will probably chase each other from one to the other until dominance is established. Water trough in the fourth corner completes the rotation!
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Acadian, Google "paddock paradise". You will get a bunch of hits. There are all kinds of styles, including one where normal horses graze in the center, while the obese and/or metabolic horses graze on the outside track.

Paddock Paradise - Natural Horse World

Since your land is still a blank slate I. Terms of pasture, you might be able to build a Paddock Paradise without too much trouble.

I have never used one, because it just isn't feasible the way we are set up.

Hopefully someone following along, either has used a Paddock Paradise or knows someone who has, and can offer some input.

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post #168 of 303 Old 05-05-2016, 06:02 PM
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Acadian, Google "paddock paradise". You will get a bunch of hits. There are all kinds of styles, including one where normal horses graze in the center, while the obese and/or metabolic horses graze on the outside track.

Paddock Paradise - Natural Horse World

Since your land is still a blank slate in terms of pasture, you might be able to build a Paddock Paradise without too much trouble.

I have never used one, because it just isn't feasible the way we are set up.

Hopefully someone following along, either has used a Paddock Paradise or knows someone who has, and can offer some input.

A Good Horseman Doesn't Have To Tell Anyone; The Horse Already Knows.

I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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Yes, it sounds like she wants to check you out a bit more, which is good I guess! Plus, yay for a trail ride! I hope you take lots of pics!
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post #170 of 303 Old 05-07-2016, 04:21 PM
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Completely O/T but sounds like a lot of your "Harley issues" are owner issues. If you put a green rider on my horse he would be a hot nervous mess. But he's not, just an inexperienced Arab. Harley is more experienced than my boy but sounds like a very similar situation. FWIW my gelding is more than happy to plod along and not look twice at anything with the right rider. I do think you are right to look at another horse but you are saying riding Haley is tiring because you're waiting for him to spook at everything, well that's why he's doing it :) My mother says the same things about Desi "he's tiring". It's best if you don't worry about the horses reaction to things (I know it's easier said than done ;))
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