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post #251 of 303 Old 05-17-2016, 10:55 PM
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keep looking. the right horse will be worth it. :)
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I said I would make it short didn't I. Brevity is not my strong suit.
I was thinking the same thing. But that's one of the things I love about you. :)

Sorry neither of these horses felt like THE one. I really think you'll feel really good about the right horse. Did you feel good about Harley right off the bat?
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Neither me or my mother went about buying our horses (we both are still on our first horses, but have had them several years. Shan and I just had our 7 year anniversary!), neither of us went about buying our horses the conventional or smart way. Both of us just 'clicked' with our horses, and knew that they were the one. There was no talking me out of that green mustang mare, I was dead set and it wasn't smart at all. Thankfully, we blossomed together!
We looked at several horses for my mom, a few years after purchasing my mustang. She clicked with Belle, and that was it. Bought from a down and dirty horse trader who was a very strange lady. Not in top condition at all. Our trainer evaluated her and from the little tests we put her through, thought she would be fine. Not trainer's first pick for mom, but said she wasn't dangerous. Belle was nervous, a bit touchy, diving for hay scattered on the ground because of being underfed, but we had a good feeling about her and she did what we asked.

We certainly took a risk, but she turned out to be an absolutely amazing horse. Mom loves her and could not be happier with her. They trail ride for hours and hours and Belle has proven herself time and time again. She actually takes care of Mom. Mom did fall off twice the first year. One was a tack malfunction and the other time Belle bolted (she got spooked), mom didn't have a good seat yet and fell off. Both times she was fine and Belle was fine. Belle has turned out to be very non-spooky and a very solid trail and arena horse.

Point being that I'm not so sure there is a 'perfect right off the bat' horse available to buy. I'm not sure I've ever met someone who didn't have little ups and downs (or sometimes big ones!) with a new horse. Its just part of the process of getting to know each other. A lot of horses come with habits that you don't like but the previous owner didn't mind or encourage. Different people, different horse handling methods.

Well, my simple point, thing to remember, is that IMO the mind/temperament of the horse is the most important thing to consider when buying a horse. A more timid rider does better with a follower type. An experienced rider who is up to being severely tested will do well with an alpha horse.

OK, I'm done ranting. I'm as good at being brief as you are!

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I was thinking the same thing. But that's one of the things I love about you. :)

Sorry neither of these horses felt like THE one. I really think you'll feel really good about the right horse. Did you feel good about Harley right off the bat?
Yes. It was love at first sight. My daughter felt the same way. He's smart, moves beautifully, has enough energy to keep going all day, but remains responsive to the slightest cues, loves to work, loves people... yes he has a big canter and is hard to rein in when he really gets going, and he can be timid on trails, but he is so perfect in every other way that I could never part with him.

No horse has even come close to feeling that way to me.
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Neither me or my mother went about buying our horses (we both are still on our first horses, but have had them several years. Shan and I just had our 7 year anniversary!), neither of us went about buying our horses the conventional or smart way. Both of us just 'clicked' with our horses, and knew that they were the one. There was no talking me out of that green mustang mare, I was dead set and it wasn't smart at all. Thankfully, we blossomed together!
We looked at several horses for my mom, a few years after purchasing my mustang. She clicked with Belle, and that was it. Bought from a down and dirty horse trader who was a very strange lady. Not in top condition at all. Our trainer evaluated her and from the little tests we put her through, thought she would be fine. Not trainer's first pick for mom, but said she wasn't dangerous. Belle was nervous, a bit touchy, diving for hay scattered on the ground because of being underfed, but we had a good feeling about her and she did what we asked.

We certainly took a risk, but she turned out to be an absolutely amazing horse. Mom loves her and could not be happier with her. They trail ride for hours and hours and Belle has proven herself time and time again. She actually takes care of Mom. Mom did fall off twice the first year. One was a tack malfunction and the other time Belle bolted (she got spooked), mom didn't have a good seat yet and fell off. Both times she was fine and Belle was fine. Belle has turned out to be very non-spooky and a very solid trail and arena horse.

Point being that I'm not so sure there is a 'perfect right off the bat' horse available to buy. I'm not sure I've ever met someone who didn't have little ups and downs (or sometimes big ones!) with a new horse. Its just part of the process of getting to know each other. A lot of horses come with habits that you don't like but the previous owner didn't mind or encourage. Different people, different horse handling methods.

Well, my simple point, thing to remember, is that IMO the mind/temperament of the horse is the most important thing to consider when buying a horse. A more timid rider does better with a follower type. An experienced rider who is up to being severely tested will do well with an alpha horse.

OK, I'm done ranting. I'm as good at being brief as you are!
You're undoubtedly right, but it's all about managing risk as far as I'm concerned. I understand no horse is going to be perfect and that there will be an adjustment period, but I want to put the odds in our favour by choosing a horse that is most likely to work out. I'd be prepared to put a bit of training in a horse that was priced reasonably, but not in an 18 year old. And I'm not really looking for a pony that only goes one speed - SLOWWWW. :)
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Yes. It was love at first sight. My daughter felt the same way. He's smart, moves beautifully, has enough energy to keep going all day, but remains responsive to the slightest cues, loves to work, loves people... yes he has a big canter and is hard to rein in when he really gets going, and he can be timid on trails, but he is so perfect in every other way that I could never part with him.

No horse has even come close to feeling that way to me.
Maybe that is the problem...no horse can measure up to Harley!
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Maybe that is the problem...no horse can measure up to Harley!
Yes, that's occurred to me. But I'm trying to be very rational about all this. I did like the paint a lot until I rode him a second time. I thought he was the ONE. He wasn't. Maybe he could become a good horse with additional training, but I was very disappointed in the seller lying to me. She is now advertising him for sale as a bombproof beginner-safe trail horse.

Found a new one about 3 hours from me, in Quebec, where they do have a lot more good horses than here. I've responded to the ad and would be willing to go have a look. Sounds very good, and at a reasonable price. They have a video so I've requested it. If I were going to go see this horse, I'd bring my daughter along. It's too far to make multiple trips. But I could go once with my daughter, then again with a trailer, taking the time to ride it a second time before loading.
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If there are more options in Quebec is there any chance of lining up 3 or 4 to test drive?
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If there are more options in Quebec is there any chance of lining up 3 or 4 to test drive?
Maybe. I found a second one not too far from this one, so responded to that ad as well. As you say, if I can line up a few, it will make the trip worthwhile. I don't want to go too far, but across the border, there is a whole other market. I think the fact that the vast majority of ads are in French prevents most people in my area from going across the provincial border. Luckily, French is my first language. Horses are cheaper over there too.
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Ever since I was a kid, I had this gut feeling about buying a horse. Even at age 12, I wouldn't consider a horse unless my heart went zing over it. My family knew NOTHING about horses and vet checks were something of the distant future. I do not know if gut feelings apply to everyone. Lots of folks on the forum said they didn't really click with their new horse until they had ridden it for awhile. It takes me about 30 seconds to "know" and when I was 12, I looked at at least 20 horses before it happened. But somehow, even as a kid, I knew it needed to be there. When I got on the mare I ended up buying, my grin was as big as the moon. She was IT. And she truly was.

For me, having bought and owned horses all my life, I know for sure that I have to have that strong reaction that THIS horse is the one that will make my life complete. I've chosen a few really bad acting difficult horses over the years, but I always knew that they would be great for me. And they always have.

When I bought our "World's Greatest Pony" for my daughter when she was 3, he was a bit of a handful, and he reared 17 times while I was trying him out. I can't tell you why I was certain he was "the one," but I just knew I HAD to have him. Eleven years later, he earns his nickname "World's Greatest Pony" over again after almost every ride.

Do you get a sense that you need to have that feeling before you buy? If you do, then I encourage you to wait until that "zing" horse comes along.
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