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post #31 of 303 Old 04-22-2016, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
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The clumping hay in the stomach could indicate bad or missing teeth.
I know you're not getting that one but reading between the lines can help you weed through the candidates. I suspect you'll be an expert in no time.
Yes, I learn something each time. Like knowing which indirect questions to ask that will tell me whether or not I want to pursue a horse.

And this is why I don't put up an ISO ad. I might, in time, but I'm afraid that if I do that, it will attract the wrong kind of person. It's much too easy to provide the right answer if you already know what the person is looking for!

So for now, I'll just keep casually looking at ads. I have alerted the horsey people around me that I'm looking too.
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post #32 of 303 Old 04-22-2016, 04:44 PM
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But that happens to me with almost every animal I've been around my entire life. Dogs, cats, horses... they get very bonded to me even when they're not supposed to be "mine". Our two dogs (bought for our kids) follow me to the bathroom and wait for me to come out, LOL. Sometimes it's annoying - especially for my kids who would love to have that much attention from them, but I keep telling them all they have to do is spend more time with the dogs and feed them every day like I do! My daughter likes to ride Harley, but doesn't care to feed, groom, lunge or just hang out with him. That's going to put a limitation to how close they will become. I have no reason to believe she would behave differently with another horse.
Yep, if you want to build a relationship with an animal you've got to put time in. The very same happens in my household. All the animals prefer me over my husband or kids, because I'm the one who spends time with them. Except the chickens lol - they follow DH around as he's the chicken person in the family.

I have to admit I find it frustrating trying to encourage my boys to develop more of a relationship with at least one of our many animals. It's not like they're short of candidates!: two cats, one dog, nine lovebirds, tons of goats (some very tame), two horses - they're spoilt for choice and yet neither of them has what I would call a good relationship with a single animal. *Sigh*

Sorry, OT but I just really related to that comment of yours. re: the horse search, well, I'm sure something suitable will appear in due course. At least you're not in a hurry.

There is nothing more peaceful than watching a horse eat.
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post #33 of 303 Old 04-22-2016, 04:52 PM
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I had to smile a little bit about the ad. I am familiar with the Canadian breed, but what exactly is a "French" Canadian? I'mnot sure horses make the distinction ;).

I thought it meant the horses are taught voice commands in French??? (or that they wears berets).
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post #34 of 303 Old 04-22-2016, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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I thought it meant the horses are taught voice commands in French??? (or that they wears berets).
Hahaha! I had a French car (just sold it). It came from Montreal and the on-screen commands were all in French. Which is fine, because it's my first language, however, some of the translations left me mystified as to what, my car was trying to tell me.

Maybe they neigh with an accent and eat poutine!?
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Yep, if you want to build a relationship with an animal you've got to put time in. The very same happens in my household. All the animals prefer me over my husband or kids, because I'm the one who spends time with them. Except the chickens lol - they follow DH around as he's the chicken person in the family.

I have to admit I find it frustrating trying to encourage my boys to develop more of a relationship with at least one of our many animals. It's not like they're short of candidates!: two cats, one dog, nine lovebirds, tons of goats (some very tame), two horses - they're spoilt for choice and yet neither of them has what I would call a good relationship with a single animal. *Sigh*

Sorry, OT but I just really related to that comment of yours. re: the horse search, well, I'm sure something suitable will appear in due course. At least you're not in a hurry.
Indeed, it seems like a common affliction among kids who have moms that look after the animals. But I was always like this, even as a kid. I discovered early on that animals really appreciated it when I was slow and gentle with them so I made myself slow down whenever I approached them and really took my time getting to know them. It was amazing how they responded. I literally had animals following me around everywhere. Seems my kids would rather stare at a screen most of the time.
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post #36 of 303 Old 04-23-2016, 01:36 AM
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I always loved animals ever since I was a kid, but was not disciplined enough for everyday care. When I was eight my parents finally caved in to all the begging a got a family dog. My mom ended up doing the large majority of the work and the dog adored her.
Now as an adult I still love animals and have no problems with the everyday commitment. I think I just needed to mature a little bit.
I think you have a good approach. Don't get her another horse in the hopes that this one may change everything. Get the horse you want, and it sounds like it is a horse your daughter would be able to ride anyways.
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I took an equine first aid course today and one of the horses we practiced on turned out to be for sale. Adorable guy! We bandaged his legs, hoof, and even his eye and he just stood patiently for about an hour. I mentioned we were in the market for a second horse and wanted a bombproof, trail safe, beginner safe horse. Some of the girls there knew this horse and had ridden him so they could tell me a little about him. They mostly do trails with him, but he also jumps. He's 13, believed to be a QH paint cross and appears in good health. They told me he is very much bombproof and is the type you could put a total beginner on. When we were done and it was time to put the horses back out, I followed along and the girl asked if I wanted to lead him out so I said sure. Great ground manners. He didn't push into me and just walked with his head/neck at my shoulder, not getting ahead even though he was getting released into the paddock with his buddy, another gelding. He is on hay alone at the moment - I would add some kind of grain to his diet.

Here's the kicker: he's over 16 hh. I'm 5 ft tall. I had to use a stool to "pretend" bandage his eye. But other than that, he seems like exactly what I'm looking for. He used to be a schooling horse and his current owner, who's had him for three years, is selling him because she's going back to school and can't afford to keep a horse right now.

She said I could come out and ride him anytime so I left her my card and told her to email me so I could get more information about him and maybe set up a time to try him out.

Oh, and I learned a lot about equine first aid today! I recommend it to everyone!
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When you have a very well trail broke and kind horse, 16+H is doable.

My Rusty is 16.1' I am 5'2" and rode him bareback all the time. The most important thing to remember is never get off the horse until you either have a hillside to park him beside, or a fallen tree big enough to let you get your foot in the stirrup with ease.

I have seen "step-stirrups" and my opinion is they look dangerous.

If you have time, a thread in the health section regarding your first aid class might have some benefits for all of us but, especially the new horse owners.

Many kudos to you for taking the class:)
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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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post #39 of 303 Old 04-23-2016, 07:52 PM
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For a child your daughters age - no I wouldn't buy that horse
He's a good size and not as bulky as I expected a Canadian x to be and quiet is good but your daughter's a good little rider that wants to do some showing classes on her own horse and I don't see that one excelling at that job. He might be good on the trails but as her confidence grows so will her ambitions to do more challenging things and I think she'd soon get dissatisfied with him.
I've had older horses and ponies that were still competitive in their 20's but they'd always been competitive and when those senior years came on them we were thinking about winding them down a bit plus even the healthiest older horses can suddenly get struck down by conditions more associated with increasing age like Cushings and arthritis and you are more likely to find yourself with a horse that isn't up to what you want him for than if you buy something younger that she can grow and improve with
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post #40 of 303 Old 04-23-2016, 07:57 PM
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No ---you are--- NOT --- willing.

You only think your are because you are a kind person and have never had to deal with Cushings, or IR; and some horses can develop both.

Cushings horses HAVE to be on Prascend. Cushings is a gradual path to dearth, some take longer than others, depending on severity and how soon it is caught.

The horse in my avatar had Equine Metabolic Syndrome and was diagnosed in 2007. I lost him in Nov, 2014 to major colic from strangulating lipomas.

I still have my IR horse that is so serious he is on a prescription.

Between my vet bills, once a month th farrier visits, ancillaries of all sorts, the vets office declared I have spent enough money on both these horse (since 2007) to buy an upper level dressage horse with a great record and a big price tag.

While these horse need exercise, it cannot be strenuous. Steady and quiet but nothing strenuous.

I don't think you want to get yourself in a tangled mess trying to manage one of these horses. It is hurtful to the soul at best, for anyone who doesn't view that horse as a commodity, to watch these horses. Especially when they have to be separated and live life in a dirt lot or the barnyard.

No, that is not something you want to set yourself up for.

If you do look at this horse, I would demand a blood test to check insulin and cortisol levels, as part of the PPE. That takes two viles of blood.

They want a lot of money for the horse but they could still be aware the horse has metabolic issues and will feign ignorance.
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