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post #1 of 12 Old 06-21-2017, 11:31 PM Thread Starter
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Training trail horse

I am a volunteer patrolman for a sheriffs department. The other night while patrolling a horse stable I observed a female horse in the pen with two male horses. They were giving her a hard time. I was told she had an attitude and they would correct her. She looked very stressed out and each time she approached the fence the woman handler would hit her. I was concerned and returned at the end of shift to check on her. She was bloody on her front legs and blood was running down her back shank. I reported it to the manager and she was removed from the pen. She was a donated horse and I was told this is how she is trained for trail use. What do you think?
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post #2 of 12 Old 06-22-2017, 12:04 AM
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All I can say is, this is animal abuse and should be reported. It has nothing whatsoever to do with any kind of training I ever heard of. Sure nothing to do with trail training.

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post #3 of 12 Old 06-22-2017, 12:32 AM
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Although people will put a horse that has a bad attitude with other horses and let them teach respect from a horses perspective, it is typically done in a pasture setting where said horses can get away from each other so no one gets hurt, not in close confines. There is no reason for a human to stand there and beat the horse or whip them until they are bloody for this purpose. There is also no reason to put them in such close confinement where one horse is getting bullied and beat up. The mare could also have gotten injured and bleeding from bites and kicks from the other horses. Hard to tell without seeing it.

This has nothing to do with training to be a trail horse. It does have a purpose in teaching a horse to have more respect towards higher authority whether it be horses higher in the pecking order or humans. Animals that have not learned this can be dangerous animals that end up being euthanized.

Honestly, it's hard to say without seeing it, but the way you described it makes it sound like the handlers are ignorant and abusive.
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post #4 of 12 Old 06-22-2017, 02:46 AM
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So, this horse was being 'trained', by a sheriff's office, to be used as a patrol horse?
That makes the offense even worse, with someone in authority, who should be investigating these types of incidents, instead ,are the offenders!
They are not training a trail horse. They are creating a horse that will become either defensive when other horses come up on them, or fearful to the point they will freak when another horse come sup on them
Sometimes, putting a horse that has had little socialization with other horses,into a herd setting, where that horse will be 'disciplined, taught proper herd etiquette is an effective tool, esp a horse that lacks proper respect,and will help change the attitude of that horse towards humans also, BUT, as mentioned, you don't put them in a confined space
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I am a volunteer patrolman for a sheriffs department. The other night while patrolling a horse stable I observed a female horse in the pen with two male horses. They were giving her a hard time. I was told she had an attitude and they would correct her. She looked very stressed out and each time she approached the fence the woman handler would hit her. I was concerned and returned at the end of shift to check on her. She was bloody on her front legs and blood was running down her back shank. I reported it to the manager and she was removed from the pen. She was a donated horse and I was told this is how she is trained for trail use. What do you think?

where IS this? I mean, where is it that people do this? I've never heard, ever, of such an approach.
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post #6 of 12 Old 06-23-2017, 12:35 PM
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The OP does volunteer patrol for the Sheriff's Department. That is fairly common in our area as well as other areas in the U.S. The horse was at a stable on the volunteer's patrol route. At least that is my understanding from reading. The OP asked someone on the property about the horse and was told this was how the stable (trainer in charge of that animal) trained trail horses. Report them OP that would be my advice. The prior posts have explained why one would put an animal in with higher ups as well as that it would be done in an open area not small pen where there is no escape and NOT for training for trail purpose but to teach respect to an animal that has never learned that. There would be no reason for anyone to stand outside the pen and hit the animal when she approached the fence. That I would also consider abuse.
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You need to get photos if you can and file a report, and turn the b!%# in!
That is abuse. It is not training of any kind.
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So, this horse was being 'trained', by a sheriff's office, to be used as a patrol horse?
That makes the offense even worse, with someone in authority, who should be investigating these types of incidents, instead ,are the offenders!
They are not training a trail horse. They are creating a horse that will become either defensive when other horses come up on them, or fearful to the point they will freak when another horse come sup on them
Sometimes, putting a horse that has had little socialization with other horses,into a herd setting, where that horse will be 'disciplined, taught proper herd etiquette is an effective tool, esp a horse that lacks proper respect,and will help change the attitude of that horse towards humans also, BUT, as mentioned, you don't put them in a confined space
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It was not being trained by sheriffs department. They are very professional, this was being done by an individual "rescue group"? But thank you so much.
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post #10 of 12 Old 06-30-2017, 11:05 AM
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I hope this incident was reported. This woman needs to be out of business.
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