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post #1 of 15 Old 06-10-2015, 01:33 PM Thread Starter
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Triple Crown question

Hello everyone! I am new here. My wife and I have two quarter horses and are glad to find this community! Exciting to finally have a triple crown winner!!

I was wondering if all Triple Crown contestants are male horses. The reason I ask is due to Stud fees that the owner could collect after a win.

Thanks and have a great day!
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post #2 of 15 Old 06-10-2015, 01:49 PM
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I don't know of any fillies that have won the Triple Crown, but there are some that have won the individual races in the Triple Crown. See this article for a run down and reasons why that might be.
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post #3 of 15 Old 06-10-2015, 01:51 PM
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Welcome to the forum. Great to have you here.
I know that they can run all of the horses, But a lot more money to be made off of a stud. I will have to look it up.
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Pretty gruelling race for a filly because of the distance. There a numerous other races for fillies during the Festival.



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Most Triple Crown Race entrants are males, gelding or stallions.
All are "technically" 3 years of age....
I have several friends with race horses, Thoroughbreds and Quarter Horses.
I have been in the race training barns and what I see is a difference in size between male and female, same as in humans.
Males because of genetics are just usually larger...truth.
It is rare that at a young 3 years of age a female is as large, as developed and as capable as the males of such a grueling race schedule or distances of races.
There are always a few exceptions to that "sex" rule....and those females have competed and won against their male counterparts in some very prestigious races.
It is also the luck of good or bad that any horse not fall apart or breakdown during a race, or any race campaign.

When you actually look at still shots of the race and realize that all of that weight, stress and strain of running is completely on one limb at some point in the race it is incredible that anyone has a OTTB or Quarter Horse who is race retired with 4 legs and is sound occuring.

In answer to your question though....
Yes, female and males of the appropriate age may be entered in the Triple Crown Race schedule if the money is put up as needed.
I think they must also qualify as worthy by running the more difficult tracks of better horseflesh competing schedules {aka the racing card}
Horses that race on a lower level of intensity track do not compete with the same caliber of animal as say those who race at Belmont, Aqueduct, Churchill Downs, Santa Anita and such... these are the cream of the crop horses....
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ok

I didn't consider that a filly would have a disadvantage over a colt regarding stamina. Learn something new every day. Thanks for the info and warm welcome!
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We have never had a filly win the triple crown but interestingly enough filly's do have their own version of the Triple Crown known as the Triple Tiara. Like the Triple crown it is open to 3yrs olds but no colts are allowed to run. It consists of the Acorn stakes (belmont park 1 mile), the Coaching Club American Oaks (saratoga 1 1/8 mile) and the Alabama Stakes (saratoga 1 1/4 mile). At one point it also included the Mother Goose Stakes but as part of the restructuring it was added and removed several times.

there are only 8 winners of the triple tiara and there has been some debate over whether or not it is a fair race set as they are all run in New York and so heavily favor fillys who regularly race in the northeast.

the 8 winners are Dark Mirage (1968), Shuvee (1969), Chris Evert (1974), Ruffian (1975), Davona Dale (1979), Mom's Command (1985), Open Mind (1989), Sky Beauty (1993). Although it should be noted that Wistful (1949) and Real Delight (1952) could be considered winners as they both swept the (then) current largest races for filly's (Kentucky Oaks, Pimlico Oaks [also know as the Black Eyed Susan oaks], and Coaching Club American Oaks) before the 3 races where recognized as a trilogy, much the same as Sir Barton (1919) is the first winner of the Triple Crown although it was't a recognized racing set until Galant Fox (1930) repeated his feat.

The Triple Tiara was officially named in 2003 I believe and has carried and additional bonus for winning all three races of up to $50,000 but for whatever reason it has received little in the way of public funding or recognition.
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I didn't consider that a filly would have a disadvantage over a colt regarding stamina. Learn something new every day. Thanks for the info and warm welcome!
Fillies lack the same amount of muscle mass as colts. (unless the trainers are giving them testosterone treatments, as a some did back when I was in that industry. ) Therefore fillies have to work harder to run the same speeds as colts so they have that disadvantage. Fillies have their own prestigious races though, , such as the Kentucky Oaks.
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OH and fillies can run in the triple crown races but it is a risky trainer who would do such a thing. A very few HAVE and three have won the Kentucky Derby in 140 years. , the last back in 1988. ("Genuine Risk"... what an appropriate name) It takes a GREAT filly to compete with the boys.
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Genuine Risk won the 1980 edition, ran second in the Preakness (coulda shoulda won if the stewards had properly taken Codex down for interference) and ran second in the Belmont. It was Winning Colors who won in 1988.
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