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post #21 of 34 Old 07-20-2015, 02:00 PM
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As a buyer, my trainer or myself look at a listed price and decide whether or not the horse is worth what's being listed. I've never heard of people coming to a breeder with a checklist and a budget--interesting~
Actually, this is how I started out. A clear list of "musts" and "would be nice" and a realistic maximal $$$.
When visiting a breeder, I first checked if his prices were even in the range of what I could/want to spend.

No need to waste the owner's time by looking at horses priced at 10k and up and be only willing/able to spend 3k... And also preventing me from agonizing over horses that are out of my reach!
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post #22 of 34 Old 07-20-2015, 02:04 PM
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DO NOT fall in love instantly! Be objective.
Good for you for knowing your limitations. You would be amazed how many people over-estimate their ability...not that I have ever done that myself.
It's good to have an experienced horse person along if possible.
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post #23 of 34 Old 07-20-2015, 02:48 PM
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I have always found horse prices varying. We all might agree that a certain horse is worth around $3000.00. Put the same horse in a fancy show barn and the price might double, or put him in someone's backyard and the seller might be lucky to get $1000.00. I certainly understand the reason behind this but the fact is that it is still the same horse.
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post #24 of 34 Old 07-20-2015, 02:59 PM
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As a buyer, my trainer or myself look at a listed price and decide whether or not the horse is worth what's being listed. I've never heard of people coming to a breeder with a checklist and a budget--interesting~
The check list is just in place, before they go looking for a horse, from whatever source

I wrote about this interesting example before, that gives the gist of that.

A non pro, riding with a trainer, decided to attend a select sale , some distance away. Before he went, he and the trainer went over what he was in the market for
A gelding, well broke, with some proven show record.
That person came back with a two year old stallion, just halter broke, because the horse 'caught his eye!

Lucky he was with a trainer,as a vet appt and lots of training fees might get him the horse he started out to buy in a few years!
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post #25 of 34 Old 07-20-2015, 08:06 PM Thread Starter
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I'll give you a breeder's perspective.
A good well broke started young horse has to be worth $3,000, just to break even, and you better enjoy what you are doing, as you aren't being paid for your training!
I would get acall like this at times.
"hi, we are looking for a well broke Appaloosa, black and white, that anyone can ride, but we don't need the papers ( ie, want that horse cheap )
Ask how much they are willing to pay, and the answer was, 'well, somewhere between $1000 and $1,500 >
My answer- the all breed horse sale at Innisfail down the road, was on the next Sat.!
Might as well raise cows in that case-more money and no training needed.
Sorry, but just a sort of rant of mine, and not directed at you, but so often people complain about the quality/training of a horse they go to see, and they are just looking at cheap horses someone wants to dump
Not always, but often you get what you pay for, and why should horses be an exception?
As a goat breeder I totally understand this. Raising animals (the right way) is just not a good way of making money. Everything cost and many buyers just don't understand that.

However as a horse buyer my budget is low. Yes the purchase price is the lowest cost of horse ownership but when you don't have it you just don't have it. I understand this means I'll have to weed through some duds and it might take a while and some sacrifices in my wish list but I'm willing to take some time.
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post #26 of 34 Old 07-21-2015, 03:27 AM
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Have you tried asking around your friends, or asking them to spread the word, to see if anyone has the kind of horse you are looking for? It can save a lot of time and you are more likely to get the owner to agree to a trial period if they know you!

When I started looking for my horse, I was preparing to spend time, and drive a lot of miles, to find the right one. I had been told all kinds of lies when I bought my previous horse and was very nervous about that happening again. Then a friend, who knew the kind of horse I wanted, suggested I ring this other lady we both knew who was selling hers. This was only the second horse I had seen, but she was exactly what I wanted. I had her on two weeks trial, got her vetted and we've never looked back! Often the solution can be close to home.
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post #27 of 34 Old 07-21-2015, 07:41 AM Thread Starter
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Have you tried asking around your friends, or asking them to spread the word, to see if anyone has the kind of horse you are looking for? It can save a lot of time and you are more likely to get the owner to agree to a trial period if they know you!
I have. I told my farrier to put the word out, my cousins brother in law who owns horses and trail rides allot and a friend of my fathers who used to be a farrier and has lots of connections around town. So far absolutely(it's been about 4 months since I began my search) nothing other than one horse that I didn't even look at because she was too small and an offer of an unbroken draft horse with respect issues.
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post #28 of 34 Old 07-21-2015, 08:35 AM
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I have. I told my farrier to put the word out, my cousins brother in law who owns horses and trail rides allot and a friend of my fathers who used to be a farrier and has lots of connections around town. So far absolutely(it's been about 4 months since I began my search) nothing other than one horse that I didn't even look at because she was too small and an offer of an unbroken draft horse with respect issues.
Why not put a "shout out" post?

"ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS IN AND AROUND NC!"

and give them your horse list? The members may not have the horse you want, but every member knows people with horses . . . It's a huge network.
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post #29 of 34 Old 07-21-2015, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
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Found one just 25 minuets away. Talked to the owner on the phone about her for a while. If he wasn't lying she might be the one. Only 5yo, spooks in place, 15.3-16hh, knows tricks, can pack an 80yo lady around at a walk or gallop in a field. Has been to extreme cowboy races and trail competitions. The cons are she opens gates, is just plain sorrel(I wanted a paint), is a little too smart for her own good sometimes and her price is $1200. But I'm willing to pay a bit more is she's right for me.
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post #30 of 34 Old 07-21-2015, 01:25 PM
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Swiss and Smilie--
I guess I didn't do a good job of articulating myself!

The checklist wasn't what I was referring to when I said that I had never heard of someone doing this. I too, had a(n albeit short) check list when I was horse shopping the second time around-
-Gelding
-<10k
-Suitable for the Hunter/Eq ring

What I was referring to was bringing said checklist to a breeder and essentially asking them to provide the horses.
I had my little "internal checklist" and sought out individual horses on my own, with my trainer rather than showing up at some establishment and saying "I am looking for this, this, and this: show me horses."

The sensitivity of the internet baffles me.
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