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post #1 of 10 Old 04-04-2017, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
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Trying to see if Harley is a registered paint

I recently took over my cousin's paint horse gelding (Harley) because she could no longer afford him. I had him shipped from Texas to New York, but he doesn't have any papers. She bought him from a family who intended to use him for their special needs child but it didn't work out. Prior to that they were TOLD he was a champion barrel racer... not sure about that but he does turn on a dime when he sees a cone (something we are working on NOT doing). We are unsure of his exact age. The vet said he's 16 but he could be anywhere from 16 to 20. He acts 10... He has a notch in his right ear. Just wondering if anyone could help me look up on the APHA site to see if maybe I can find some information as to his history.
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post #2 of 10 Old 04-04-2017, 10:22 AM
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Without knowing sire & dam, you're out of luck. If he was *truly* a champion, you could potentially review show records, but horses do not need to be registered to do barrel racing.

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post #3 of 10 Old 04-04-2017, 10:44 AM
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He LOOKS like my gelding, Silky's Billy Joe. If he were 20, that would make him a 1997, and our stallion died in 1992. He could be a grandson, but you would need to be an APHA premium member(or whatever they call it) or an AllBreedPedigree member to look up all that prodigy....Our stallion was Silky McTavish, if you decide to go for it!
This photo was taken when he was QUITE young, as he mature, he had that long neck like your horse, and the huge wither....he always needed longer reins!
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post #4 of 10 Old 04-04-2017, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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WOW he really does look similiar! I'll have to see how much a membership is so I can do some poking. It would be great to find out, but I know it'll be really difficult. And YES he also needs the longer reins!
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Beautiful horse....
I have a paint myself that has similar markings too.....

When you do your "poking around" see if blood work for DNA could of been done or if you became a member and had a sample sent in if a matching process is/could be done for lineage look-up?
I know some breeds do blood-typing now with their registry horses....

Papers or not...no doubting he is a paint.
He is very distinctive looking as all paints are.
Maybe go through old records of barrel competitions and shows...if he was a "champion" there will be pictures of him someplace.
Best of luck.
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post #6 of 10 Old 04-04-2017, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
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Do you have any suggestions on where to look for race records? I did a basic google search for Texas barrel horse competiton results and found very little. As far as I know, Harley has never lived outside of Texas until now.
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I just googled "old Texas barrel racing results"...
You could try adding in "paint horse" and see what appears...

Good luck.
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Call and talk to them but my understanding is that if he is registered a DNA sample will match and you could ask about getting his registered name and then look him up but they do not do lineage matching.
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post #9 of 10 Old 04-18-2017, 08:06 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, that is right. However, if I don't know his sire or dam they have no way to match on DNA even if I had a sample to provide. I'm working with my cousin to see about getting a previous owner name that could have registered him. That may be the only way I can find out if he was ever registered and what his lineage and age is. If not, I'm still enjoying him. He's a great horse and knows his stuff!
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No help with the registration, but wanted to say Congrats! He looks like a great horse and is handsome as all get out!! Looking forward to pix from your future adventures together!
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