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post #11 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 02:06 AM
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I agree with what the others are telling you. Time to put a stop to it whether that be by a signed contract outlining your terms, pay full board and trainer can no longer use the pony at all, or moving to a different barn. Any of the choices other than moving the pony will require you to be a sleuth in order to make sure your wishes are being followed because I would no longer trust that instructor
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I agree with the above. You had a verbal agreement that was broken so how will you ever know how much the pony is being used even with a written contract?
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I agree with what the others are telling you. Time to put a stop to it whether that be by a signed contract outlining your terms, pay full board and trainer can no longer use the pony at all, or moving to a different barn. Any of the choices other than moving the pony will require you to be a sleuth in order to make sure your wishes are being followed because I would no longer trust that instructor.


I agree, How could you trust this person who took advantage of a verbal agreement even with a written contract?
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post #13 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 03:21 AM
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I had what I classed as Working Liveries, ponies that I used on a daily basis that were privately owned. They got a discount on their livery and the ponies were available for the owner to ride at weekends and at shows.

These ponies did, on average two hours work a day for me. They were covered by my insurance should there be an accident. On more than one occasion if the owner were away and Pony Club camp was at the time I would ask them if they minded if the pony went to camp with another child. I cannot think of a time when the owner said they didn't want it to go.

A contract needs to be drawn up, that I agree with. Clearly stating what the pony can be used for and how many hours a week. Certainly a lesson horse/pony can work four hours a day with no problems. They are actually not working for that full hour and generally the work is not exactly hard.

One thing I would never do is to chuck a pony out into a field for a year, it is very unhealthy for them and could well lead to founder.

Of the OP is not happy with what is going on then they need to speak up about it.

I do hope your son makes a good recovery.
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post #14 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 06:54 AM
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It might not be as bad as it sounds. I would just have a talk with her and see how much riding he is actually getting. I would tell her that I want the pony to be ridden only once per night, not several lessons per night. What does summer camp consist of? Are the kids zooming around all day on the ponies? Or are they mostly standing around? If you think it's too much then tell her. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind either. I've started plenty of things that turned out to be different than I thought it would be and changed my mind. I would have thought for a fifty dollar a month discount he would be only be used a couple of times a week for a nightly lesson ride.
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post #15 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 09:36 AM
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Only $50!!!! She is making out like a bandit! She probably makes that money back in one night of teaching lessons! IMO she should be free leasing the pony, aka she pays for everything. I'd even settle for paying vet/farrier and she pays for everything else.

Honestly, a contract would be in her best interest too. What's to stop you from suing her for using the pony? I'd just explain to her that you'd like something in writing and explain to he what you are and are not ok with. Do you not want the horse taken off the property? Do you want to be notified? Is it ok if they jump the horse? Trail riding? How many riders a day? How many days a week? Who can handle her?

Being a lesson horse isn't for the faint of heart. It's a tough job! I'd hate for them to use her all up because they know she your "problem" in a year.
Agree with this. 3-4 times a week, camps, and going to shows sounds more like a lease to me than a "Can I borrow your horse for a couple of lessons." She likely makes that money back and then some. I would either be asking for a full write off of board, or put more restrictions on the use of the horse. I also agree that you need to have a contract, and possibly even have the trainer carry insurance on the pony depending upon value.

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Sounds like "highway robbery" to me and major overuse of your pony. The life of a lesson horse is not easy and then being hauled off everywhere for any old camp or show! This person is making a huge amount of money off your pony and you get $50 a month? That's crazy. I would never trust anyone who took advantage of both me and my animal in this way.


That poor pony would be better off temporarily retired to pasture until your son recovers. No horse needs to be worked and hanging out in a pasture for a while can do nothing but good. Even if you get your pony back in decent health, he may not behave in the same way he used to when your son starts riding again. Being used by a bunch of beginners can completely ruin any horse's good training and make them snarly and resentful.
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post #17 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 10:55 AM Thread Starter
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You're right. I'm not afraid but was just unsure. I've relied on this person for advice about horses and thought that maybe I was over reacting. I'm pulling him from her program.
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post #18 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone

Everyone is confirming what I already knew but didn't want to admit. I relied on this person and thought that she knew best. We're going to pull him from the lesson program at this point. We're contemplating boarding him elsewhere.
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I agree with the above. You had a verbal agreement that was broken so how will you ever know how much the pony is being used even with a written contract?
I disagree, where does it say the contract was broken? Sounds like the details of the contract were pretty much non existent and the trainer took advantage either intentionally or no (though I'm sure she knows she's getting away with it to some extent-$50 dollars off??). As lousy as that is it's not anyone's fault except the OPs for allowing it, which she will not be any more. That's not the same as flat out breaking a contract, and the trainer may have the best intentions just tight pocket strings!

FWIW I think pulling him completely and changing barns is way overkill. Do you just not trust the trainer anymore? I would think talking to her and figuring out a contract would be a good first step, give her a chance, it doesn't sound like she is being malicious! It DOES sound like a good situation, just one that needs to be planned out better and communicated, and that falls on you OP even more than her. She may not even realize you are anything less than thrilled.

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post #20 of 24 Old 07-16-2016, 11:32 AM
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I'd certainly find out how much work the pony is doing... as in how many hours a day and how many days a week. One doesnt want him rode into the ground. I think its great hes being used.

His care shouldn't be costing you anything... trainer should cover it all being as how she is profiting from his use
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