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post #21 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 12:04 AM
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I do take a little issue with that scale. According to it, I was an advanced rider at age 12, almost 40 years ago. Hate to think I'm not at least secret-special-advanced now. Leaves little room for additional skills....... ;)
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post #22 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 12:09 AM
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I would be more inclined to say that you don't "want" a trainer, then you don't "need" a trainer. Olympic level riders still need a trainer.
This is so true.

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post #23 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 01:35 AM
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Nope. I would absolutely never let a person ride my horse's regularly if they were not in a lesson program with a reputable coach. Actually, I wouldn't ever let a person on my horse's 1x for a walk down the hacking trail if they came at me with that attitude - they'd be laughed down the driveway.

I can't think of one person in my very horsey area that would allow what you are suggesting.
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post #24 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 01:38 AM
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Yes, people do allow someone to pay to ride their horse and not be in a lesson. That's what leasing is :) You don't have to do a full lease. There are plenty of people out there who will part lease their horse for as low as 1 ride a week, or even a few days a week.
I honestly can't say I know anyone that would allow a leaser to not be in lessons, myself included. IMHO I would be very weary of an owner who would allow a person to ride or lease their horses and not be in a lesson program "because they already know how to ride". I'd stay far far away from the owner who was okay with that.
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post #25 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 02:19 AM
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I honestly can't say I know anyone that would allow a leaser to not be in lessons, myself included. IMHO I would be very weary of an owner who would allow a person to ride or lease their horses and not be in a lesson program "because they already know how to ride". I'd stay far far away from the owner who was okay with that.
It is pretty common around me for someone to lease their horse out without a lesson/trainer requirement. Decent horses too. It's also pretty common for leasers to require lessons with their mounts, but those are typically horses that are in a lesson barn. Loads of horses available for lease are not.

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post #26 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 01:32 PM
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It is pretty common around me for someone to lease their horse out without a lesson/trainer requirement. Decent horses too. It's also pretty common for leasers to require lessons with their mounts, but those are typically horses that are in a lesson barn. Loads of horses available for lease are not.
I can understand an experienced rider with loads of miles under their belt who has previously worked with reputable trainers, leasing without a coach. But, when the rider has not worked with reputable coaches and has an "I know everything and don't need a coach" attitude ....I'd be very cautious of an owner who would lease to that type of rider.
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post #27 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 03:52 PM
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I honestly can't say I know anyone that would allow a leaser to not be in lessons, myself included. IMHO I would be very weary of an owner who would allow a person to ride or lease their horses and not be in a lesson program "because they already know how to ride". I'd stay far far away from the owner who was okay with that.
I don't know about that, I let a girl that keeps her horse where mine are at ride mine. She's a good rider but doesn't take lessons. Sometimes she'll want to bring a friend to ride so she will ride mine and have her friend ride hers. I know her though. She's nice, will ask before doing something and knows what she's doing.
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post #28 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 05:19 PM
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I don't know about that, I let a girl that keeps her horse where mine are at ride mine. She's a good rider but doesn't take lessons. Sometimes she'll want to bring a friend to ride so she will ride mine and have her friend ride hers. I know her though. She's nice, will ask before doing something and knows what she's doing.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but IMHO what I posted above. This is just from experience, as well as what I see from a good majority of owners who lease their horses out in my area. I am not saying you (anyone) shouldn't allow others on their horses, but if the rider expects to not need lessons "because they already know how", then you get bet your behind that's not a rider that many owners would want to deal with leasing their horses.

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I can understand an experienced rider with loads of miles under their belt who has previously worked with reputable trainers, leasing without a coach. But, when the rider has not worked with reputable coaches and has an "I know everything and don't need a coach" attitude ....I'd be very cautious of an owner who would lease to that type of rider.
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post #29 of 34 Old 02-02-2016, 05:34 PM
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while i haven't read all the comments i want to say this, even if it's been repeated already. you NEED an instructor.

let me tell you why:

i was big time into horses from age 10 to age 20. owned my horse, boarded, exercised others horses, helped run a boarding barn with lesson program, etc. i was good in my own mind, had good balance, was able to ride a number of different horses well, and rarely came off. my lessons at age 10/11 were not much past beginner - meaning pretty much walk, trot, canter, small little jumps. after less than a year of lessons back in the day i moved on to leasing then owning. this was pre-internet, so i thought i knew a lot.

took a 12 year break from horses.

did not get back into it via lessons like i should have. instead i leased a horse that belonged to a friend of a friend. said horse was a big calm lumbering beast of a draft cross. the kind you could watch a cat climb up it's stifle and it would yawn while that happened. best horse to get back into riding with.

i had that 'i rode before, i know what i'm doing' attitude.

switched leases. new lease was a quarterhorse that had been there, done that, and was a steady eddie type. i was still in a comfort zone and my riding self esteem was still sky high. this was due to the horse under me being compliant and not giving me problems.

then that lease ended and i bought a young mare that wasn't trained. i thought i could do it, train that mare, and we'd go riding off everywhere together just like i did with my old pony gelding from my teens.

i was WRONG. i needed lessons. i needed to learn that i was not in the same place i was when i rode before. i needed to know that although my knowledge was there, my body was not equipped any more to put up with the issues that can arise when handling/training/riding young green/not yet fully broke horses.

my mindset was still in 'i'm riding a trained horse' mode. my horse was not a trained horse although she gave me moments that felt like she'd 'been there, done that'. this was my error. i've slid back a LOT psychologically in my confidence because of my error.

now i have a horse that is not fully trained nor ride-able (but our trainer is helping with that) and i have a humble appreciation for those out there that help us idiots learn how to ride properly and effectively. I still have not signed up for lessons. i need to. in order to help me ride a horse properly, safely, and effectively.

get lessons.
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post #30 of 34 Old 02-03-2016, 02:31 PM
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what you need is a hack/rental stable
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