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post #11 of 17 Old 03-15-2017, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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i Pulled a bunch today and don't recall the leaves being hairy. Right now its growing in patches a lot like dandelion, but there's some bushier stuff with the flower. Will get some close ups tomorrow. Thanks for your help
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It is not lantana. Is the stem square or round? Leaves opposite from each other (directly across) or set in an alternate pattern (one on one side and a little down a leaf on the other side)? Square could put it in the mint family. Many of those plants have strong scents. Not all are pleasant. One we used to sell called dittany of crete smelled like cat pee. It isn't that but there are others in the family with the same smell. Just from those pictures it looks like a Eupatorium - common name mist flower. I think they have been reclassified (Conocliniium?) but typically they aren't that smelly. They also bloom late summer/fall. There are more flower heads together as well. Get a close up of the flower and one of the stem showing the pattern the leaves have. Are the leaves thick and hairy? Just from what you show it could also be another type of aster but without close ups hard to tell and often plants can be confused.
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post #12 of 17 Old 03-16-2017, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
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Hope these photos help. The stems are round and kind of hairy. Leaves seem to grow opposite each other in patterns of 4( hope that makes sense).
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It is not lantana. Is the stem square or round? Leaves opposite from each other (directly across) or set in an alternate pattern (one on one side and a little down a leaf on the other side)? Square could put it in the mint family. Many of those plants have strong scents. Not all are pleasant. One we used to sell called dittany of crete smelled like cat pee. It isn't that but there are others in the family with the same smell. Just from those pictures it looks like a Eupatorium - common name mist flower. I think they have been reclassified (Conocliniium?) but typically they aren't that smelly. They also bloom late summer/fall. There are more flower heads together as well. Get a close up of the flower and one of the stem showing the pattern the leaves have. Are the leaves thick and hairy? Just from what you show it could also be another type of aster but without close ups hard to tell and often plants can be confused.
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post #13 of 17 Old 03-16-2017, 03:20 PM
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Here is a dichotomous key that could help you ID it. I don't know where you are so I got stumped pretty early on.

https://gobotany.newenglandwild.org/simple/

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post #14 of 17 Old 03-17-2017, 08:43 AM
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It does actually have some purple tinge on the stem, and the flower heads have more on them than the original pics show. This winter has been so weird it could be blooming out of season. The only thing is the amount of hairyness on the stems. Some wild varieties may be hairy or considering some of the tendencies to cross possible it is crossed with something. I would say it is a eupatorium though. I"ll look closer this weekend and key it out with my key which covers your area.
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I should have been more clear. A close up of the base is handy if there is what is called a basal rosette which is a group of leaves coming off the roots. Then a picture of a single representative stem with leaves so we can tell placement of leave on stem and shape of leaf. Putting it on white paper or cement so there is no confusion with the background helps. Having a size for the plant height of stems (average) and width of base helps too. Many times just having your hand/foot or leg in the picture helps someone looking gauge relative size of the plant. The flower head picture is good and we can tell a lot but having it on white paper also gives more clarity for features that we can't determine or see when in with everything else. I am pretty sure I have this on another piece of property where I keep a team of drafts that we rarely use. We have had a freeze though so it may not be up. I hate mowing the bottom pasture because the smell gags you.
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Looks wise Iron weed would be another related possibility as that one changes dramatically by habitat. I just don't remember a smell associated with it. Agastache, another relative, stinks something awful but looks wise the flower heads are arranged differently.
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Also one I wanted to add that the horses avoid because of the small I assume and I have never seen it on a poisonous plant list.
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