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post #21 of 32 Old 08-08-2015, 02:38 PM
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Umm, I fell off quite a few times and I am most definitely neither a good nor a real rider. I'm just very challanged in any sporting ability (not that falling off is a sign of that particular deficiency, it's just the reason why I keep falling off).

I'm not sure that not falling off ever is a sign of a good rider. I would say it might be a sign of a decent AND lucky rider :)
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post #22 of 32 Old 08-08-2015, 03:25 PM
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I don't think many people enjoy falling off and its something I avoid as much as possible because the older you get the more it seems to hurt
Falling off/not falling off doesn't make you a real rider or a good rider, its how you ride that does that.
Essentially someone who only rides sensibly in a manege or on a safe trail is less likely to fall off than someone who does a lot of high level cross country jumping or extreme trail riding. If you only ride safe solid schoolmasters you're less likely to ever fall off than if you work for/as a dealer or breaker and have to get on all sorts of horses
I fell off a lot as a child because I was stupid and either brave or daft enough to get on anything
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post #23 of 32 Old 08-08-2015, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk View Post
I used to bring home some pretty sour horses, that had been ruined by people.

I rehabbed them and found them good homes with fellow trail riders. I went off a lot of them before I got them re-gentled.

I have never gone off a horse I trained from its beginning, nor any of my Keeper Horses.

Does that mean all those years of getting tossed off a horse somebody else ruined means I am a bad rider? I don't think so.

I've spent my entire life butt sliding my own horses down power lines, and river banks, then knee digging up the other side, without benefit of a saddle, and never fell off.

It would be great if you can ride the rest of your life without going off a horse but it isn't likely --- it isn't in the Odds. Because you've never been tossed, you don't know how to fall to avoid extraneous hurt and damage, so it will probably get you a hospital bill

Learn to tuck n roll, just in case
and exhale on the way down.
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post #24 of 32 Old 08-08-2015, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by emma715 View Post
Hey, It's me, and I have another question :)

In my entire riding career, I have not once fallen off the horse (and have been 'one of the best students I've ever had', says my trainer.). I have heard from multiple people that you aren't a true rider until you've fallen off. Is that true?
You need to hang out with smarter people.

Seriously, the odds that you will fall off most likely increase with increased riding but at the same time as your skill level increases you become better able to prevent it. Sooner or later it's bound to happen but not guaranteed.
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post #25 of 32 Old 08-08-2015, 09:05 PM
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Falling is just apart of riding whether it be small or big it is bound to happen the longer you ride! It's been 10 months since I last fell off but I still ended up buying a horse lol!

I agree that it's a test to see if you want to continue riding I know of people who own a horse but fell off it and now refuse to get back on but they have ridden other horses.
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post #26 of 32 Old 08-09-2015, 02:22 PM
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If you ride horses that never do anything wrong you could spend your entire riding life never falling off - I mean as long as you learn properly and at a sensible rate you're unlikely to just slide off the side of the horse for something to do!!!
Its the challenging horses that make you a good rider and really unless you've been on one that does a 'dirty' spook, bucks or rears you have no way of knowing if you're well enough prepared for it to stick on. Hitting the ground a few times is a good incentive to learn how though
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post #27 of 32 Old 08-09-2015, 04:53 PM
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Well, i don't know of one person, professional trainers included, that have not come off a horse, riding enough different horses.. Ride enough different horses,esp colts, and sooner or later you come off. Thus, I think the expression comes to denote someone that has ridden many different horses, versus just a few broke ones
of course, one learns to minimize the chances of coming off,,through training horses in such a way that the horse is not likely to resort to fear bucking, ect, plus one does gain some degree of skill in both diffusing a buck and also in staying on
One can be a technically great rider, winning awards on a well broke horse, and one that is also maintained by the trainer. This is a very common scenario esp with amateurs on the breed circuit. Many of these same people are afraid to ride a horse out, and I really don't consider them 'good riders'
Good riders a re able to communicate with a horse, suing light aids, able to give that horse confidence riding out, and have that horse performing relaxed and happy
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post #28 of 32 Old 08-09-2015, 08:05 PM
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I always make a fuss over my young students when they take their first fall and tell them that they are now a real horsewoman or horseman. The main reason I do this is to toughen them up, make them feel better about the shock of a fall and to make sure they get right back on. It's simple positive reinforcement.
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post #29 of 32 Old 08-09-2015, 09:42 PM
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If you ride long enough, eventually you'll hit the dirt. Doesn't make you a better or a worse rider, or a real rider. It just is a thing that happens to just about anyone who sticks with riding long enough. You can try to reduce the odds by riding safe horses conservatively or you can up the odds by riding adventurously or working with young/green/untrained horses.

Sometimes it's a good thing to get it over with, so to speak. For some people, the longer they go without ever having fallen, the more scared of it they become, until that fear contaminates and takes some of the enjoyment of riding from them. So for that at least, I think it's better to have fallen a time or two and know what the deal is, though I certainly don't think it's a requirement. And if it's something that happens regularly, you might want to re-evaluate what you're doing! LOL!

I've fallen a fair few times. Once landed me in the ER with a severe concussion despite my helmet, once broke my tailbone, but most did nothing worse than get me a bit dirty. I remember my first fall, and the relief I felt that I had finally "gotten that out of the way" and found out what it was like. I endeavor to avoid falling ever again, but expect that I probably will hit dirt at some point anyway. Falling doesn't mean much one way or another, but I recommend not making a habit of it. :)
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post #30 of 32 Old 08-09-2015, 11:28 PM
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Nothing to do with falling...but it comes along the way

A real rider rides the horse they are on. Any horse. A real rider can get a mediocre or dishonest horse rise to the occasion. A real rider can bring the best out of the animal they are on.

That being said Equestrianism is a "School of Hard Knocks" Most of us learned our balance through the craziness of some wild pony and significantly more guts than brains. Riding is not for the faint of heart nor for the heavy of head Not that we are merely brave and stupid- but let's face it we're trying to communicate with a 1'000 pound animal with a very active flight instinct. Unfortunately our methodology especially towards the beginning is trial and error. And for many of us we rode the 'rotten ones' and went racing down the trails too fast and over the jumps too high and with too little tack. So one hits the dirt. A lot. And somewhere after the umpteenth afternoon of picking gravel out of one's knees somehow the 'passenger' becomes the leader and the rider. Timidity is lost and replaced with confidence and expectations. Indecision gets traded for consistency and poise and 'holding on' turns into 'balance'. I would say at about the point a rider starts improving their mount is when they actually 'become a rider'

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