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post #11 of 15 Old 09-08-2017, 04:27 PM
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I'm not sure how to delicately put this. I live in a very non-horsey country and don't have a huge choice of instructors. I don't want to put anyone down but it's one of those take-it-or-leave-it situations and for various reasons this instructor and barn is the best solution for us. I did ask my instructor for help with this but she was rather underwhelming with her response. She sort of implied that it's not a problem for jumping so there is no problem.

I suppose I am "mesing with her", I just can't get a clear picture of how to stop my messing. I guess I will need to provide a video.

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That's a shame, I have never come across an instructor who does not view correct flat work as the basis of correct jumping....BUT you still need to try and isolate what it is that is different when you are jumping, because that is your key.

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Without a video, very hard to know what is going on
Ditto to questions asked by ApuetsoT
"on the bit and chewing, can be just a horse dumped on his front end, being resistant, even dropping behind the vertical, so it feels like you have nothing in your hands
When she wiggles, do you correct her with your legs, and not just hands? Horses also wiggle when they are not truly moving forward,willingly, so just sort of trying
to drift either direction
You need to teach her to guide evenly between your reins and hands, riidng with the correct balance of both, meaning more legs then hands
That's it, that's it!!! It just clicked! She is not forward enough when she does it! Thank you, I will report back tomorrow.

(I promise I have more than two brain cells to rub together, it's just that I've been working so hard on slowing her down...)
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That's a shame, I have never come across an instructor who does not view correct flat work as the basis of correct jumping....BUT you still need to try and isolate what it is that is different when you are jumping, because that is your key.
Eh, you guys are spoiled for choice but I mustn't complain, at least I have someone to help me out :)

I think Smilie kick-started my brain - she's not forward enough. I will report back tomorrow. Thank you!
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post #14 of 15 Old 09-08-2017, 06:52 PM
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Smilie said what I was going to say; she is needing more forward. I think when you took a horse whose answer for every question was MORE forward, to the point of rushing, and you got into her mouth with the bit and rein trying to get her softer, you got her more worried about the rein, and your desire to shut down her rushing.

Now she has become evasive of the rein by being so soft and mushy and wiggly that the rein/bit contact is not connected to her feet and body.

The answer is to get her going forward freely. Then, if you want to get her softer, do it with going forward briskly, and if she comes behind the bit, leg her forward energetically.
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Yup, there should be a big banner on top of "New to horses" - "MORE LEG, try that and only ask a question if it doesn't work". There would be one thread a year - tops.

It worked almost instantly. So now I have a nicely straight horse (which I was after) with a pretty headset (which I wasn't after but I guess it's pretty to look at...). She keeps the headset even when I release the contact completely so I suppose it's comfortable for her - should I be correcting that and getting her head up?
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