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post #1 of 29 Old 08-26-2014, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
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Would you get lessons here?

I am in the process of looking for a new place to get riding lessons. One place is pretty well recommended, but they get all the horses in at the beginning of the day and have them in stalls all day, possibly tacked up all day. From what I gather, this is fairly tedious for horses and possibly not ideal (I am too new to really know.)

So I was wondering what the people here thought about that practice? Is it messed up to bring horses in and have them in stalls all day waiting to maybe be ridden? Is it worse if the horses are tacked up all day? (I am not sure if they are or not, but would like to know what the deal is there?)

Personally I think it sounds a bit tedious for the horses. The place I go to currently leaves the horses in the field unless they are being bought in to ride.

So what do you think?
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post #2 of 29 Old 08-26-2014, 02:08 AM
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It's not the end of the world and I'm sure the horses are used to it. Besides remember some horses live in stalls most of the day anyway.

Assuming they look happy enough otherwise go for it. They're allowed to look bored!
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post #3 of 29 Old 08-26-2014, 02:20 AM
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I've been at two barns who did both- one brought the lesson horses in during the morning, and the other only brought them in if they were being worked. However, the one who brought them all in had a huge lesson program that ran all day, so the horses were being rotated and used all day (mostly beginner lessons, nothing too intense), and put in the stalls to hang out under a fan, get a drink, and chill for an hour or two before the next lesson. Realistically, bringing in and throwing out any combination of ten out of thirty horses every hour all day would be annoying and tedious for both horse and human.

The one who brings them in from the field had private lessons only, and only 3 or 4 lessons a day. So horse comes in, goes in the cross ties, gets tacked up, ridden, and tossed back out.

I'm not going to comment on the being saddled all day, since both barns taught the lesson kids how to tack up and untack, so obviously the saddles came off when the lesson is done. I don't know if that's a common practice, but it'd be stupid for a lesson program to just leave the saddles on unless they're doing a bunch of trail rides back to back.

But even the trail place I worked at for a summer had the horses untacked after each ride... IDK.


TL : DR As long as the horses are not miserable and heat stroking in their stalls, it's not a big deal. Even if the lesson program is small, the horses are fine in the stall for the day.
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post #4 of 29 Old 08-26-2014, 02:20 AM
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I don't like the sound of it. I know of a place that keeps there horses in the stall all day long. The only time they get out is for lessons. IMO, that's not a fun life for a horse, they deserve to be horses too. Even if they get thrown out into a ring once or two a week for turn out for atleast an hour is better then nothing.

Anyways, I have high standards in that area. A lesson horse is a valuable animal, they should be treated as such.
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post #5 of 29 Old 08-26-2014, 05:12 AM
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While not ideal, being in a stall throughout the day and remaining tack up may be likened to a worker remaining dressed in a suit and tie all day and working in a cubicle. I don't like either, but horses and people survive.

I would prefer having the horses loose in a field or paddock where they can move at will and have free access to grass hay as well as water. Then, I would prefer the student get the added experience of retrieving the horse as well as grooming and tacking it. Finally, I would want the student to unsaddle the horse, fluff up its matted hair, and turn it loose once more. This would help teach horsemanship rather than simply riding.
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A lot of us have no choice but to keep our horses stalled most of the time. They do quite well and consider that to be their safe place.

On the other hand, not only do I think that leaving them saddled all day long and in their stalls is mildly abusive (and lazy!) but it also points to this place as being low class and desperate for money. You may be mistaken though, there may have been a rider coming immediately and then there is no point in unsaddling. The only places I've run across that leave horses saddled all day are the public riding stables where non horse people pay to take a trail ride and the horses work 12-14 hours straight. The one at our local State Park was forced to close because of extreme neglect.

I would doubt if you will get quality lessons at this place if these horses are being ridden so much that they have to leave the saddles on. (If this is really happening) You'll get to ride nothing but a worn out/worn down plug and you won't learn much from that!
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I think it's perfectly ok. Many people stall there horses during some point of the day. In the summer during the day to avoid bugs and intense sun. During the winter to avoid really chilly nights. Bringing them in also makes them much easier to feed. You know exactly what everyone is eating and drinking and there is no shleping hay and grain outside.

So long as the horses aren't tacked all day I don't see what the problem is.
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I personally would not because part of taking lessons is learning how to take care of the horse, not just jump on and get to riding.

I'm also fairly new to horses, and my trainer from the beginning has been teaching me just as much about barn manners as she is about riding. That includes saddling the horse before the lesson, doing my lesson and then unsaddling afterwards, maybe even rinsing off the horse/ putting up my tack/ turning him or her back out to pasture or in the stall, giving them a little grain after a long ride, etc. I think you're missing out on a huge part of the experience if you take out the barn care from the lessons.

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At the place I take lessons, sometimes I get there and the horse is saddled up and other times no. It's usually saddled up if my riding teacher didn't have a lesson before me.

Personally, I'd hate for my horses to sit around all day (and possibly not get ridden at all) with saddles on. Hopefully the girths are at least loose at this barn!


But maybe you could request that you'd like to saddle up your own lesson horse.
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I personally would not because part of taking lessons is learning how to take care of the horse, not just jump on and get to riding.

I'm also fairly new to horses, and my trainer from the beginning has been teaching me just as much about barn manners as she is about riding. That includes saddling the horse before the lesson, doing my lesson and then unsaddling afterwards, maybe even rinsing off the horse/ putting up my tack/ turning him or her back out to pasture or in the stall, giving them a little grain after a long ride, etc. I think you're missing out on a huge part of the experience if you take out the barn care from the lessons.
Same here, I expect all that to be part of the lesson, and I really enjoy the time spent with the horse before and after the ride.
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