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post #31 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 01:16 PM
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I think I'll add, since a lot of people are saying to find a horse that I know is what I want, I don't have a specific "want" right now. That may change as time goes on, and if it does I will be looking at started horses, but right now this will likely be a pleasure/trail horse, not a competition prospect. It probably seems like a lot of time, energy, and money to put into an animal that I won't be taking to competition, but I still see it as an experience, not a means to an end.
A good foundation is important for any horse, be it working ranch, endurance, trail, competition, or even the pasture puff.

I suspect there will be a lot of changes for you before you start horse shopping. What you want to do, how much time you actually have to devote to this project, spendable income, where the horse will live (personally I don't think weanlings should grow up in a box)...the list is endless.

I am in the camp of starting with a more mature animal but you will end up doing what you want. Just make sure you are prepared.

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post #32 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 01:18 PM
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No, it's not a great idea because even if you have been around horses for a lot of years and involved in all parts of their care, when you actually own one you suddenly find there is a lot you didn't know that you thought you did. I rode, cared for horses, trained, worked with babies, leased, etc. for 12 years before I got my own horse and learned how much I somehow didn't know still. And I'm still learning.

That being said, you aren't looking to do this for several years. I would learn everything that you can, work with as many problem horses (alongside a trainer) as you can, look for a breeding and training barn who will let you apprentice - basically go about preparing for your goal. Along the way you may decide that you were wrong and that you don't want this after all. If not, you'll have been doing everything you can to prepare for it, so it have a higher chance of success.
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post #33 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
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Maybe I'm just being grumpy today: it's been known to happen. But owning a horse is not a "good experience." Done correctly, it is a way of life -- A total immersion in a particular way of life. Raising and training a weanling is a part of that way of life, but only a part. And it's a part that many competent horse people often manage to bypass quite successfully! Become a horseperson rather than just a rider, and THEN think about it. You're young and have many years ahead of you in the world of horses. There's no need to rush. Concern for the horse should outweigh any consideration of the experience you desire. Real horsepeople always put the welfare of the horse first. First you become a horseperson, THEN you think about a weanling.
^^You put this incredibly eloquently, and I actually agree 100%. I really put it WAY too lightly. I use the words "experience", but it is a way of life. That is what I want, not just an experience. I'm not there yet, but I this is where I'm going to head. It'll probably take longer than I was initially thinking, but if I'm passionate (I am) and I keep heading in that direction (I will), I will get there eventually.

I never would think to put the welfare of a horse in jeopardy, not intentionally. I think I've been a bit foolish in my thinking, a bit too optimistic and (I hate to say it) arrogant. That said, it is something that I dearly want, just not before I'm ready. That's why I'm building my support system now. I need help. Which is why I'm here among other places .
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post #34 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 01:25 PM Thread Starter
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No, it's not a great idea because even if you have been around horses for a lot of years and involved in all parts of their care, when you actually own one you suddenly find there is a lot you didn't know that you thought you did. I rode, cared for horses, trained, worked with babies, leased, etc. for 12 years before I got my own horse and learned how much I somehow didn't know still. And I'm still learning.

That being said, you aren't looking to do this for several years. I would learn everything that you can, work with as many problem horses (alongside a trainer) as you can, look for a breeding and training barn who will let you apprentice - basically go about preparing for your goal. Along the way you may decide that you were wrong and that you don't want this after all. If not, you'll have been doing everything you can to prepare for it, so it have a higher chance of success.
I think it is important to note that there is no cap on knowledge. Even I recognize that. You just have to learn what you can, surround yourself by knowledgeable people, and hope that together you can come up with the answers. That's how it is for everything. You'll never know all there is to know. That said, there is a certain minimum that should be known before you move too far forward.
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post #35 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 01:30 PM Thread Starter
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OT, but I do apologize if I sound like I've got a weird attitude about this or something of the sort. I think it's in the word choice and sentence syntax that I tend to use...not so great with the English language here .

In all seriousness, I take all of your viewpoints to heart, and I'm not taking this lightly as some neat, novel idea. Horses are an honest passion of mine, and have been since I was 2 years old. It's just hard for me to describe in words.
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post #36 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 04:02 PM
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You're just in a wanting state because you are under the influence of all those beautiful babies DBA has... ETA Even from afar they tug on my strings. Such beautiful animals with great attitudes.
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post #37 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 05:55 PM
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Girl it's hard, it's really hard and I've been around horses since I was in the womb.

My kid is great, and I love raising her from birth. But they are just that, 1000 lb kids that throw temper tantrums, deal with hormonal changes, and get scared and overwhelmed quickly. You can barely do anything with them until they are 3 or 4. And even if you set out with the best intentions, the best trainers, the best everything, you still don't know how it's all going to play out. You can spend minimum $700 a month for good training and board for the next 3 years, that's $25200 for something you can't ride yet.

I say, save up the first year of training costs and go buy yourself a dang nice 8400$ horse that you can enjoy and do anything on.
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post #38 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 06:33 PM
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Oh vair raises a great point. Weanlings don't come with any guarantees. You would be amazed at how horses can change while they are growing. You can choose one with awesome conformation and in the process of growing, they can weird out on you. Suddenly they're downhill, or in their youthful exuberance, they wreck a leg...or two, or some other part of their anatomy. With an adult horse, you get what you see and you have some idea of their personality. Their conformation isn't going to change. (Unless you do something to wreck it.) Weanlings can be a crapshoot....ask anyone who buys at Keeneland or Fasig-Tipton! All you have is breeding and conformation and a hope/guess.
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I'm not a complete idiot--there are parts missing!

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post #39 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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You're just in a wanting state because you are under the influence of all those beautiful babies DBA has... ETA Even from afar they tug on my strings. Such beautiful animals with great attitudes.
Oh no doubt about that . I have met a few of his babies in person, and I tell you, they have a way of winning you over!

That said, I honest to goodness have been dreaming of this since I was a child. Other people pushed that dream away, but in my heart I wasn't so much swayed as I was wanting to please them. I certainly accept, in fact embrace, that it's not a cakewalk, but you can't tell me that there's no benefit to raising a youngster. I really have trouble describing how I feel about it, as I said I'm not great with finding the right words, but I feel it strongly.

I think that meeting Star's Black Magic kind of rekindled an old desire, but it has been here for a long time.

I've got to say, I'm still not put off of it, despite all that you've told me. Some of it I knew already, a lot of it I didn't quite realize, whether I truly knew it or not.
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post #40 of 74 Old 07-25-2014, 07:19 PM
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You seem very sweet and thoughtful, and open to criticism, so let me point something out, with no malice in the mentioning. If you can fix it before you ever start this project, it might be feasible WITH a trainer at your side. I am looking at your avatar, and I don't know how long ago that picture was taken, but I see a woman that doesn't know how to ride. At all. You might can stay on a horse in a ring, under supervision, if that horse is insanely tolerant. You're leaning way back, heels up, hands high, off balance. It's ONE photo, and it tells me that you aren't ready to ride a reactive, well-trained horse, much less train a young, reactive, colt or filly into a well-trained horse.

I STRONGLY urge you to start taking riding lessons or learning to ride well on a very well-broke, tolerant horse. I am not the best rider in the world, but I can more than stick a horse, and *I* am not suggesting I break a horse from start. Lay your personal foundations before you even start thinking about training. Start figuring out what it is that YOU don't know about the art of riding before you even THINK about teaching a horse to carry a rider.
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