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post #61 of 74 Old 07-26-2014, 11:18 PM Thread Starter
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I know what y'all are saying about the photo. It's not a good photo, and I'm not perfect. Far from it. But, the circumstances of the photo still make me smile, and that's the reason why I put it down as my avatar. I am happy to post it up, not because it is flattering (goodness no), but because it's a picture of a good time.

That said, I honestly do know more than that picture shows. I'm sorry if I got defensive. I know that the picture was all you had to go on, and we all tend to make judgments before we know whether there is more to the story or not. But, I do want to reiterate something. Remember, I'm talking 5 years, possibly more, in the future. That is time to refine what I know and learn what I don't.

Endiku, I do understand what you're saying. I will still go for it, at least at some point. But, at least doing a lease first is a good idea, one that I'm considering right now. I don't have a car and will be over 300 miles away from home for school, so I don't think a lease will be doable until next summer. I'm still getting involved in horses while there, joining the equestrian team and volunteering at the riding center there, but I won't be able to keep up with a lease horse more likely than not.
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post #62 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 03:46 AM
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I wouldn't worry about getting a lease horse right away, while it is beneficial to have lots of riding miles you will learn a lot by taking good lessons which will get you on new and different horses also a good instructor will make sure that when you do get practice/ride time that you are practicing correctly.
"Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect" - George Morris

I'm glad that you are trying to see everyone else's point of view in reading their comments/criticism (although criticism sounds harsh). I have found that horse forum members can be some of the most wonderful and insightful equestrian friends but we are all very protective of our horses, and not just the horses that we own but we as equestrians see a responsibility to take care of all equines in the best way that we can. We are all passionate. Sometimes I think we get carried away, we get carried away because we all have that passion and love for horses that we think no one else can understand. In our zeal I think we lose some of our eloquence, especially when it comes to youngsters like in your case breaking colts or in the foaling and breeding threads. So when we say that we don't think someone is ready for a young horse we aren't trying to be rude we are simply being protective of "our" horses.

Wow that turned into a speech really fast
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post #63 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 04:19 AM
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I'm going to chip in here, and go against the grain.
BKLD, From your first post, you acted maturely, answered all questioned, took all the criticism on board, didn't have a hissy fit, and in general seemed like the type of person I would allow around my horses!
You are doing your research, and are prepared to ask for HELP. That is the one thing that I like most. You re prepared to do this with help if needed.
I honestly think you should go for it. Of course there will be problems, tears, possible blood, and mistakes. But, it will be a huge learning curve, and if you stay in the frame of mind you are in now, you will most likely come out the other side with a hell of a lot learned, and a faithful partner.
Best of luck.
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post #64 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 08:20 AM
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^^^^I think this is why I am so positive she'll be a great owner. She is very calm and reasoned in her replies, even when I said some not so great things. She makes me want her to succeed. I think she will. :)
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post #65 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 09:19 AM
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BKLD see if they have an International Horseman's Association where you are going. You could find a great group that will help further your goals. There may also be an equine program that has a therapy outreach. You don't typically have to be in equine studies to volunteer.
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post #66 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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BKLD see if they have an International Horseman's Association where you are going. You could find a great group that will help further your goals. There may also be an equine program that has a therapy outreach. You don't typically have to be in equine studies to volunteer.
I was hoping there was, but I didn't know for sure. I'll check it out .
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post #67 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 11:27 AM
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I'm not going to tell you not to do this, nor am I going to sugar coat things. From your comments, I think you're a smart and thoughtful person and that you will reassess your capabilities and skills along the way and do what is right for you and the horse when the time comes.

That said, I bred and trained QHs and Paints for several years. I adore working with the babies, and I have to say, my babies were some of the best mannered horses I've ever met. I let Momma have the first week to ensure a good bond between mare and baby, but after that, the young'un had to put up with me for at least two 15 minute sessions a day. Every day. Rain, sun, snow...every day. It was a blast and I loved it, and I'm sure you would, too.

I raised a lot of babies, though, and not everything was sunshine and roses. I had one filly develop rickets. Twice daily shots for a year to allow her tendons and muscles to catch up with her bone growth. I lost a great colt to a pasture accident. Not sure if he was kicked, tripped while playing or what. He was fine and an hour later I was calling the vet to put him down because he'd shattered a leg. One great prospect based on breeding, was, as a two-year old, so off in conformation that I ended up selling him as a grade horse. I didn't even recoup the cost of his feed! Now - I did end up with some beauties who grew up to be wonderful horses that excelled in their eventual owners pursuits.

All that I'm really trying to say, is that you can buy the best weanling in the world, but there's no guarantee that in two or three years, you'll have a horse worth riding or even that that baby will survive it's journey.

My advice. Buy a good mare (one with good temperament, good conformation, good discipline, and good blood-lines). Ride her, enjoy her, and when the time comes and you know you are ready, breed her to a good stallion (with the same requirements as above). One thing a lot of people don't realize, is that Mama is that baby's first and most important trainer!
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post #68 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not going to tell you not to do this, nor am I going to sugar coat things. From your comments, I think you're a smart and thoughtful person and that you will reassess your capabilities and skills along the way and do what is right for you and the horse when the time comes.

That said, I bred and trained QHs and Paints for several years. I adore working with the babies, and I have to say, my babies were some of the best mannered horses I've ever met. I let Momma have the first week to ensure a good bond between mare and baby, but after that, the young'un had to put up with me for at least two 15 minute sessions a day. Every day. Rain, sun, snow...every day. It was a blast and I loved it, and I'm sure you would, too.

I raised a lot of babies, though, and not everything was sunshine and roses. I had one filly develop rickets. Twice daily shots for a year to allow her tendons and muscles to catch up with her bone growth. I lost a great colt to a pasture accident. Not sure if he was kicked, tripped while playing or what. He was fine and an hour later I was calling the vet to put him down because he'd shattered a leg. One great prospect based on breeding, was, as a two-year old, so off in conformation that I ended up selling him as a grade horse. I didn't even recoup the cost of his feed! Now - I did end up with some beauties who grew up to be wonderful horses that excelled in their eventual owners pursuits.

All that I'm really trying to say, is that you can buy the best weanling in the world, but there's no guarantee that in two or three years, you'll have a horse worth riding or even that that baby will survive it's journey.

My advice. Buy a good mare (one with good temperament, good conformation, good discipline, and good blood-lines). Ride her, enjoy her, and when the time comes and you know you are ready, breed her to a good stallion (with the same requirements as above). One thing a lot of people don't realize, is that Mama is that baby's first and most important trainer!
I'll be honest, at first I balked at the idea (I come from the dog culture, where there are certain ideas of what a breeder should and shouldn't be). But, I suppose it's not a terrible idea if I find some people who are willing to seriously show me the ropes (if anyone thinks I'm wrong with this, please do speak up). It sounds like it'll be very expensive too, which may be a problem. Special education teachers make a decent (not great) salary, but if I budget it may be doable. Maybe.
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post #69 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 12:34 PM
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I'm a teacher with 13 years on the salary grid. It was really hard on my pocketbook. Help is expensive and "good" help can be hard to find and you will pay for it. Start saving now! People thought I was crazy getting a weanling when I did. I was constantly educating myself, reading training blogs, reading everything I could. I enjoyed the journey, it was long, bumps in the road and I never missed riding as I had my older horse to do that with. I don't think I would do it again though,, it is such a gamble if at the end they turn out to be what you want. As for the bond I spent 100's of hours more with Mocha than I ever have with my QH, and my bond with my QH is so much stronger. Mocha is respectful and listens to me but the bond isn't what I have with Luke. That's ok though. I have a training blog that I did with Mocha over time, if you are interested in looking at it I can PM you the link.
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post #70 of 74 Old 07-27-2014, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
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Oh trust me, I am . I'm working on keeping my student debt as low as it can go (thank goodness for scholarships), and I intend to save every penny I earn that isn't going towards school.

If you could PM me the link, I'd be happy to see the blog.
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