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post #1 of 47 Old 03-24-2019, 04:23 PM Thread Starter
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Lightbulb Why some animals are neglected.

These animals are likely not friendly toward people, are not attractive, are a nuisance, have chronic illness or a debilitating disorder, are misbehaved, are destructive, are troublesome and/or they are embarrassing to be seen with in public.

Some mutts are ugly, mangy and are difficult to groom. When there is an animal in the house that people don't take pleasure in owning or being around, there's a good chance it may not be cared for well. When people have a beautiful purebred dog or horse that considerable money was invested in, they are proud of the animal and take pleasure in it. Therefore the animal is likely to be fed regularly, groomed with love and care and taken to the vet regularly.

If you drive a rusty old jalopy it is not going to be waxed, vacuumed and washed regularly with love and care. If you have a shiny new car, chances are it's going to be babied with passion. Same principle applies to animals, unfortunately.

I would never want a pet prone to health issues or is crippled. The animal would be no joy to me. I would therefore seek a purebred puppy of dog from a good breeder with good credentials and pay the price.

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I really disagree, One of my favorite dogs was a mutt that I found on the street. Found him and his brother, tried to find the owners, no one claimed them so I found a home for one and kept one. Had him for fifteen years before I had to have him put to sleep. He was a lab/chow mix with funky joints in his back legs but he managed ok. He was my buddy. On the other hand, my nice truck stays dirty plenty because there never seems to be enough time in the day to get to cleaning it. I'll have to say, it does get it's oil, air, and fuel filter change regularly.

I personally take care of my animals that I'm in charge of. It has nothing to do with what they look like, their background or how much they are worth. It has everything to do with I'm the one who decided to keep them, not the other way around. If I'm holding them hostage then it's my responsibility to care for them.

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I really disagree, one of my favorite dogs was a mutt that I found on the street. Found him and his brother, tried to find the owners, no one claimed them so I found a home for one and kept one. Had him for fifteen years before I had to have him put to sleep. He was a lab/chow mix with funky joints in his back legs but he managed ok. He was my buddy. On the other hand, my nice truck stays dirty plenty because there never seems to be enough time in the day to get to cleaning it. I'll have to say, it does get it's oil, air, and fuel filter change regularly.
Well, fortunately, there are some people who will be kindly toward even a mutt. Unfortunately, others won't give proper care to an animal unless considerable money was invested in its purchase. Some people need an incentive to do the right things and sometimes that incentive is to be required to shell out serious money. People who pay $2,000 to $3,000 for a puppy won't likely starve it, fail to groom it or fail to give it fresh drinking water. This dog will likely be vetted with religious devotion and trained properly.
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Well, fortunately, there are some people who will be kindly toward even a mutt. Unfortunately, others won't give proper care to an animal unless considerable money was invested in its purchase. Some people need an incentive to do the right things and sometimes that incentive is to be required to shell out serious money. People who pay $2,000 to $3,000 for a puppy won't likely starve it, fail to groom it or fail to give it fresh drinking water. This dog will likely be vetted with religious devotion and trained properly.
This is true, but in my eyes, this puts certain people into classifications, not the animals.

Personally, I've seen plenty of animals with bad behaviors that I would find intolerable. But, that is because the owner never took the time in the first place. I've never owned one like that but I can certainly say that that it has nothing to do with the animal and everything to do with the owner.

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This is true, but in my eyes, this puts certain people into classifications, not the animals.

Personally, I've seen plenty of animals with bad behaviors that I would find intolerable. But, that is because the owner never took the time in the first place. I've never owned one like that but I can certainly say that that it has nothing to do with the animal and everything to do with the owner.
I've read in dog books that poor breeding technique can also lead to dogs with behavior issues that along with abuse and no proper training from the owner.
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I've read in dog books that poor breeding technique can also lead to dogs with behavior issues that along with abuse and no proper training from the owner.
What is your description of poor breeding techniques?
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I would never want a pet prone to health issues or is crippled. The animal would be no joy to me. I would therefore seek a purebred puppy of dog from a good breeder with good credentials and pay the price.
So when your fancy expensive purebred pet that you are sure you're going to take good care of gets old and becomes prone to health issues, what are you planning on doing?
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I personally think that any animal, whether it be mixed breed or pure can be prone to health issues. I've seen it in both. I like some purebreds. I do think, that unless it's done with totally screwed up breeding ethics, you are going to get consistency as far as temperament and such and still be able to hold on to the health of the animal. Unfortunately, a lot of people can screw up a good thing

I also do not have a problem with mixing breeds. I have to laugh when people scrunch their noses at mixed breeds as if the purebreds didn't come from mixing breeds.

I don't think people should have to defend their choice on either. Different strokes for different folks. And I still think that an animal is either cared for or neglected based on the person and not what the animal is.

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There's tons of health issues with purebred animals, especially in dogs.

I have a mutt horse with behavior issues. Last time I fell off some old man asked me if my pride was hurt. I wish I'd asked him if he had any balls still... But hey, the only way you can fall off is if your not too chicken to get on in the first place! I don't get it, I love to care of and am proud of my behavior health issue animal because it shows off the horsewomanship skills I have, which are necessary to take care of a more difficult animal. I can ride him, which takes an increased skill level from the average person, I don't feel the need to neglect him. It's fine to get the easy animal because it's easy. Some people want a challenge. Neither is right or wrong, or defines the life the animal can live.

Some people are in poor health but they still live their lives however they do.
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IMO, a dog is a dog. My mutt from the woods is the best dog ever, but I also love our GSD and lab. Dogs can have different jobs and some dogs and some living situations don't mix, but a dog is still just a dog, whether it was free or cost you 2k.
Yeah, poorly bred dogs can be prone to behavior issues and physical issues. Also some dogs just have problems. I would not want a dog with severe issues because it would just be pain for the both of us. In the end it is kinder to put a dog down than to let it suffer. However, if I had a dog with issues, I would not let it be in pain. It all depends on how long they're able to live comfortably. My grandparents just had one of their minis unexpectedly colic. After fighting it for almost 2 days, the horse was in incredible pain and still impacted. They had to shoot her.

There are people out there who just dump dogs who are sick or old. That's terrible. It's not the dog's fault that it's old or hurt or sick.

There's that huge debate about the pitbulls and whether they're safe or not. My dog probably has some pit in her but we're not sure. She was slightly aggressive when we got her, but with training she's the best dog we've ever had (she doesn't like kids at all though so when friends come over she usually goes up). I think pits that were bred for fighting can have that aggressive streak, which is what they were bred for. So, some of them are dangerous. Now nature is only part of what determines a dog's behavior, training is a lot of it. I think some pits are totally fine, but even so I'd be careful around them.

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Unfortunately, others won't give proper care to an animal unless considerable money was invested in its purchase. Some people need an incentive to do the right things and sometimes that incentive is to be required to shell out serious money. People who pay $2,000 to $3,000 for a puppy won't likely starve it, fail to groom it or fail to give it fresh drinking water. This dog will likely be vetted with religious devotion and trained properly.
If the person's only motivation to take care of the animal is the fact that it cost them money, then it's debatable whether they should have gotten a dog or not. Sure, there's economical sense to take care of an investment, but that purebred Australian Shepherd feels pain and hunger the same as some no-account street dog.



Main point: It's people that are the problem. Irresponsible, cruel, lazy humans are the cause of a lot of problems with animals. Some people don't let a farrier see their horse because it's too expensive. Some people dump their old dog or cat because taking care of them is too expensive. Personally, I probably wouldn't get a purebred. Why? Because I'm broke and I'm not spending 2k on a darn dog. Now, if I was a person who hunted with labs I might pay a lot for a lab from proven hunting stock. If I wanted a sheepdog I'd get one from good herding stock. But just for a companion? Breed shouldn't matter so long as the animal is safe, happy, and comfortable.

It's like horses. You want a jumper that will carry you to the grand prix? You're looking to spend a buttload of cash. Just want a trail horse? Not nearly as much. But frankly, abuse happens to horses too, no matter what they cost. You could have a racehorse that won a lot of money be sent to slaughter if they were retired and useless for breeding. An animal cannot help having issues. In the end, it's people, not the critter.

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