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post #21 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tinyliny View Post
I just came back from a week long trail ride over some killer terrain, and some very long days in the saddle. I am 200lbs. saddle was a heavy ranch type, and the weight of the water we carried must have easily put 250 on his back. But that horse was able to carry it all up and down some bodacious hills, hour after hour. I have a new found respect for the strength of the horse!
that sounds amazingly fun! my husband is 6'6" and he is afraid to try riding. he said his height, combined with loretta's height would give him vertigo, or put his skull into orbit. when i ride, he supervises and helps me get a leg over because our mounting block just isn't tall enough for a 17.3h horse, and a 5'6 wife :p
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post #22 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 12:49 PM
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The British show world is losing connection with observed reality. The rest of the riding world needs to call them on their disconnect. Otherwise riding horses will be limited to small girls looking ridiculous on their big warmbloods.
Ridiculous comment.
Considering Britain is a country full of sturdy cobs, Irish Draughts, Draught horse crosses,quality hunters ranging from lightweight through to heavyweight and the chunkier native breeds like the Dales and Highland I somehow doubt they'll suddenly all need to be riding WB's!!
The weight controversy in the UK showing world is almost all about parents and grooms working in children's show ponies before the classes start with just a few occurrences of very overweight riders on the small native breeds.
There's no excuse for anyone in the UK to be underhorsed as they've got such a huge diversity of horses and ponies to suit any weight and height of rider.

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post #23 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 01:12 PM
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I know many a man over 200 lbs and 6' tall or more that regularly ride QH and range-bred horses that are 14.2-3h and 900 lbs top weight. And these guys ride for several hours/miles at a time in wild terrain. None of them look "underhorsed."

What all these horses do have in common are good legs, short backs, and well-sprung ribs. It isn't so much the breed as the conformation.

My sister has a Percheron. 16.2h and maybe 1600lbs. He pulls like a champ and even in a 4-up, will out-pull his team if not held - even at 23 years old. Good strong, straight legs. He's not a good riding horse though. He'll do it, but he's long and weak backed, and has developed a very noticeable sway back. That isn't from being ridden, either - it's just what his own conformation has done to him over the years.
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post #24 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 01:41 PM
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You most certainly can have an Arabian! Not all Arabian's are the same!

My husband and I are both 5'6". I weigh erm hopefully around 150 lbs (probably more like 160 right now) and he weighs a little over 200. We have 7 horses but 2 are Arabians including his main horse and one of my main horses.

Chico, his horse is a Polish Arabian. He's 15.1 and very thick boned. DH never looks too big for him nor anyone larger that we put on him. He's never had any issues and can do 25 miles happily with DH riding. We hope to ride him in a 50 next year.

Jake, my horse, is an Egyptian Arabian. He's 15.2 and very thin boned. I worry sometimes I look too big for him and hopefully can lose a few pounds before we can hopefully do a 50 mile ride next year.

In non Arabian world, my other main ride is a 14.1 hand APHA mare. I never feel too big for her even though she is so short!

First picture is DH and I on our Arabians, second is Stitch my Paint. We ride Endurance and there are all sorts of Arabians with all sorts of riders on them!
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post #25 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaydee View Post
Ridiculous comment....
There's no excuse for anyone in the UK to be underhorsed as they've got such a huge diversity of horses and ponies to suit any weight and height of rider.
I'm not the one arguing that 10% is a maximum weight, or 15%. Take Mia's new owner (since 2015). He's got to be 220-230 in his socks. When he isn't riding her bareback, he's using a roping saddle. 35+ lbs. Mia's maximum acceptable rider weight, including tack, as being pushed by the folks I quoted earlier, is 135-153 lbs (15-17%). He'd need a 1500-1600 lb horse. But 900 lb Mia has cheerfully raced 4 miles carrying him against racing horses just because she didn't want to quit!

Other than color, those three horses are identical to their half-brother Trooper: 3/4 Arabian, 1/4 Appy, about 850 lbs. One rider is light, maybe 135 lbs. The other two outweigh me, so around 200 lbs? The sons don't want to breed their own horses any more, so they've been buying locally available Quarter Horses instead. I asked last week how it is working. The Dad says the big horses just aren't getting the job done. They tire too quickly, don't rack up the miles, need more days off, eat more and need to be pulled back to the home ranch for rest more often.

Bandit WAS ridden too hard. He weighed 800 lbs when he arrived (vet's estimate) and he'd carried over 300 lbs on training runs. He braced his back like an I-beam when he arrived and I believe his knees have been abused. There ARE limits! But the Arabians I've met don't blink an eye at carrying 200 lbs.

Here is what I believe is an easy test: If your horse can carry you with a flowing, supple back, in a relaxed trot or canter, you aren't too heavy. If your horse stiffens when you get on, you have a problem. Get off!
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post #26 of 29 Old 07-31-2018, 03:16 PM
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I should mention even though I worry that I'm too big for Jake he clearly doesn't think so. He did a 10 mile novice ride at our last ride and DH and Chico had to block him in from racing down the trail because he was so happy. We were supposed to walk the last 2 miles (competitive trail ride, you get a better score for a more recovered horse) but he wanted to trot! He was even trotting at a walk pace when I wouldn't let him go any faster. He was not ready to be done with the ride and would have gladly gone out for more even with me and probably 40 lbs of tack in 90 degree weather (hence the 40 lbs of tack, I had at least 4 water bottles on me).
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post #27 of 29 Old 08-17-2018, 11:23 AM
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I think it's all relative. I'm 5'5 and 125lbs and I ride a mare that is barely 15 hh and 1,400lbs. We have a few horses mind you but that particular one you would think I'm too big for when reading this. The way she is built, she's actually perfect for my build. I think it's something you need to look at on a individual basis.
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post #28 of 29 Old 08-18-2018, 09:42 AM
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My son came home yesterday from school talking about a meme (Is it a meme when it is a serious subject?) they were shown and had to write on in class. One side of the meme shows a skinny teenage girl looking in the mirror and the quote bubble says "Why do I have to be so fat?" The other side shows an equally skinny teenage boy with the bubble " Man, look at those pecs! I'm rivaling Arnold!"
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post #29 of 29 Old 08-18-2018, 10:24 AM
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Have a look at Crabbet Arabians :) They're fairly sturdy built horses, still mostly bred for endurance. 15hh is tall for them but I have met a number around the 15.1/15.2 mark, and they are VERY strong.

I have a friend who is 5'9 and rides a 13.2hh pony. That pony is built like the side of a barn (Highland Pony) but you'd expect her to look completely ridiculous on her pony and she looks fine.

My mother rides a 14.2hh Arab/Clyde/mutt pony sport mix, and is... a LOT heavier than you. Her pony has absolutely no trouble carrying her whatsoever and every single professional involved with that partnership is happy with them together.

The weight issue is stressed far too much IMO, as most if not all of the studies have been conducted on unfit horses whereas a fit horse conditioned to carry the weight is much less likely to experience undue strain or become injured as a result of a heavy rider. It's just like how I can carry 60% of my body weight without much difficulty but someone who isn't conditioned to carry heavy stuff might only be able to carry 20% without injuring themself.
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