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post #11 of 24 Old 01-05-2019, 04:44 PM
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Maybe it is the polyester that is the problem.....our summer breeches were cotton, and winter ones were wool. They were not form fitting, either!
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I once had a gynecologist tell me riding was bad for vaginas. She didn't elaborate and I didn't ask....... Giving up riding is not an option so why bother?


I do get a lot of leg bruising but I also hit a lot of trees!
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Thanks everyone. Yes, I too am really happy it's not lupus and something that gave everyone a good laugh!

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Bahahaha... sorry, had to laugh about that last part. Yeah, some doctors aren't very good at hiding their reactions.
Yeah, it is pretty embarassing to have a doctor look at you like you are an alien. Fortunately I got referred to a wonderful dermatologist and she took it seriously without making me feel awful.

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Equestrians have their own sport specific syndrome that unique and not found in any other population subset! How crazy yet cool is that? We all knew we were different, but frozen fat is seriously weird! I thought only our speech and spending habits were special
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ROFL, another really good reason not to live north of the MasonDixon!
Yep, the problems from sweating in unfortunate places are a whole separate post...if I had to choose, I'd take unsightly bruising to chafing But I am wimpy about being hot and sweaty.

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Weird that you should post this as similar 'marks' across and around my nose had me worried that 'my' lupus had come out of remission but like you it was just caused by the cold air on my unprotected face.
I don't think I've ever had it before though when its been much colder here
From what I read, it often shows up on the face of children who have panniculitis, so could be!

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This thread was created at the perfect time.
I noticed I had bruises around my thighs....and the rear end.
I am very clumsy so I figured that I ran into something and tried to remember any recent falls but nothing came to mind.

However, I haven't been riding but I do wear fairly thin pants when I am out doing farm work. My legs are pretty much frozen when I come back in but I'm too lazy to put on warmer pants. I wonder if just freezing my fat caused the bruising?
@Wild Heart - because I've learned that the bruising could be a form of lupus, it might be worth talking with a doctor or dermatologist. I don't want to scare you at all, as I am certainly not a doctor! But if it is unusual and it doesn't seem to be going away, maybe consider seeing someone?

I haven't been riding a lot either, but I often will wear fleece lined riding pants or longjohns under jeans while I'm out doing chores. From what I understand, the combo of tighter pants and long exposure to cold temps (a couple of studies said spending 2+ hours in the cold seemed to be something affected women had in common) could be one factor in causing it.

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Very interesting information. I wonder how riding in tights is different than someone that runs in the wintertime and only wears spandex pants? Is it the pants that make a difference, or the fact that when you're a runner, you're being athletic, but when you're riding you're "just sitting there while the horse does all the work"? LOL!
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I have ridden in very cold weather during my 60 years of riding, some years I rode more in winter than summer because of work commitments and I have never worried about wearing proper riding clothes just wearing something that was loose and comfortable in winter. I wonder if it is tighter clothes that causes this problem? I wear for winter riding a loose pair of pants and good fleecy underwear and if it is really cold ( just above 0 F) I would wear chaps.
Dr. said while the name is "Equestrian" cold panniculitis, it is sometimes seen in other winter athletes wearing tight clothing, so runners too. @Woodhaven , seems like for me, wearing the long johns under jeans was too tight, not just riding tights.

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Hmmmm.... I had weird big bruises on my thighs periodically when I was a teen and rode English. Nobody could figure it out and it went away after a few weeks. Come to think of it, I bet it was winter....
Could be! One study I read said upwards of 25% of women in Finland (apparently they studied this there) who ride in the winter reported symptoms...

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Why oh why doesn’t the fat die when it freezes?? And how does this bode for the cryogenic liposuction?
Hehe- the nurse who took out my stitches from the biopsy sites had never hear of this either, so when I was describing it to her, she was joking that maybe she might try riding to get the frozen fat benefit

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And it also makes me wonder about the fat freezing/body sculpting that's happening these days. Does that cause bruising too?
I had NO idea this was a "thing" and had to look it up. I promise you all I was not trying to do any body sculpting!!!!

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I once had a gynecologist tell me riding was bad for vaginas. She didn't elaborate and I didn't ask....... Giving up riding is not an option so why bother?
This is just cracking me up. I think you get the last word on the thread!!!
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Scary and funny all at the same time (and very glad you don't have lupus!!).


I guess my fat is thick enough to be self-insulating or else my pants aren't that tight.. or maybe I need to ride more hours? I certainly will think twice if I wind up with any weird bruising though - thanks for the info!!


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post #15 of 24 Old 01-21-2019, 08:06 PM
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Never heard of that before. Around here all i need to worry about is heat stroke during the summer. And huge horse flies, mosquitoes, and ticks.

Would chaps and warmer pants prevent that? Assuming it is related to wind burn on a poorly protected area.
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If the fat freezes, it seems like it would die. I wonder if you ladies that ride up north are slimmer than your southern counterparts. Then again, you have to factor in sweet tea, fried chicken, and the fact that all vegetables are cooked in fat back (or bacon for the more modern cook).
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@Celeste Seems like the gals I know that ride, me included, have extra fat layers to help insulate our inner fat. If freezing fat from tight clothes and riding actually would reduce the fat, I'm pretty sure I would not only be riding every day, but would need to buy much tighter riding pants then I have purchased!


Why can't it be that simple? I'm ready to be thin!
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I don't know how I missed this! Thank you for the education, @egrogan . I'd never heard of panniculitis before. It sounds like an affliction dessert chefs might get, you know, "Oh no! I made pannacotta and got panniculitis!"

If you want to see something seriously graphic, look up "mesenteric panniculitis"... but don't do it while you're eating...
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Why oh why doesn’t the fat die when it freezes?? And how does this bode for the cryogenic liposuction?

That's what I was thinking. We could all get Cool Sculpting for free
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If the fat freezes, it seems like it would die. I wonder if you ladies that ride up north are slimmer than your southern counterparts. Then again, you have to factor in sweet tea, fried chicken, and the fact that all vegetables are cooked in fat back (or bacon for the more modern cook).

I have fat around my fat, so nope. Not thinner. I wish it worked that way!!
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