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post #11 of 26 Old 12-14-2018, 07:42 AM
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Here it is. https://equimeasure.com/equimeasure-kit/

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post #12 of 26 Old 12-14-2018, 01:48 PM Thread Starter
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Yes, I definitely recommend putting a saddle pad or a few towels under it to help keep it a little more supported if trying saddles. A friend of mine recommended flipping the saddle upside down and putting the mold into so there's less worry about the weight. Also yes, I always test out any possible saddles to check how they hold up while he moves around and works :)

Worbla, thibra, and wonderflex are all similar low temp activated thermoplastics, fyi. There are other thermoplastics that require high temps to be moldable. (I bought a big ol roll of wonderflex since its so fun to play with haha)
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post #13 of 26 Old 12-14-2018, 03:19 PM
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First Thought Equine (makers of Flair, Korrector and Wow) used to supply a mesh former you poured hot water over to soften before laying it over the horse's back. I've still got one, somewhere. It worked fine to take a shape, provided you were near enough to a power point to boil a kettle. So if the horse lived in a field in the middle of nowhere, hard luck!

I found it, if not completely useless, then very nearly so. The problem is the material flexes far too much, so you're better off taking a wither template with a flexicurve and tracing it onto a piece of stiff card. Then you know it's right. I can see that having an overall back shape is better than templates at a couple of different points, but only for 'fit from a distance' retailers or saddle makers, and even then I'm not sure how much help moulds are because they don't prove levels, one of the critical things to get right.

I always flock to fit with the horse there, so I'm yet to be convinced they're much good.
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post #14 of 26 Old 12-14-2018, 07:00 PM
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Buy the pregnant woman belly cast kit.
I have 4 or 5, I think, rolls left, if you want them.
Add flexi wire between some layers to help keep it ridged. Mark on it where level is, end of shoulder, last rib, center line.

Then you can put this cast under saddles. Level the saddle upside down on a bench, then place cast in and check fit.

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post #15 of 26 Old 12-14-2018, 08:00 PM
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I have one of those First Thought Equine thermo things and agree about them being practically useless. Hard to even handle without distortion.

With the stuff the OP is using, I think I'd try laying up some 1/4 - 1/2 inch thick fiberglass mat. That should set up hard enough to even set a saddle on.

In fact, that is what I'm thinking of doing except I'd use it as a form for molding the 1/4" thick Kydex on. Kydex is the thermoplastic that all airlines use for their interiors. Been around a while with lots of engineering details. Various colors and types also.
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post #16 of 26 Old 12-18-2018, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
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Success!!

Visited the saddle shop last weekend with mold in tow, getting a few funny looks about it. I tested the mold by flipping saddles I liked (and were at least CLOSE to my seat size) over, lining up the front concho to the line of the scapula, and laying it there. I could easily see through the gullet for clearance, check out the bar angles, and contact at the back of the tree! It made shopping much less anxiety inducing for me.

I was confident in a circle y salt river wide I spotted and once I brought it home, fit my boy great! Felt stable through our ride, no slipping during mounting (even with a pretty loose cinch, to test its fit), and made great contact over his back, before and after the ride!

I'd have to say the extra time it took to mold and buy the plastic etc was well worth it for me.
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Buckets and buckets of gold stars! I think this thread should become a sticky for other to follow your example for the comfort and health of their horse.
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How rigid is this stuff when cool? If still very bendy, could you use a couple of thicknesses to make it sturdier? I'm actually thinking something like this INSTEAD of a rigid tree. Still flexible enough for some movement with the body, but enough firmness for weight distribution...

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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Buy the pregnant woman belly cast kit.
Wish I'd known about that when I was pregnant... I REALLY wanted a belly cast, but trying to do it with plaster was a messy catastrophe!

Some info I've found helpful; [COLOR=Lime][B]www.horseforum.com/horse-health/hoof-lameness-info-horse-owners-89836/
For taking critique pics; [COLOR=Lime][B]https://www.horseforum.com/members/41...res-128437.jpg
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post #20 of 26 Old 12-18-2018, 07:54 PM Thread Starter
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How rigid is this stuff when cool? If still very bendy, could you use a couple of thicknesses to make it sturdier? I'm actually thinking something like this INSTEAD of a rigid tree. Still flexible enough for some movement with the body, but enough firmness for weight distribution...
One layer has give, but you can definitely layer it for a stronger structure! (I just could feel my horse getting impatient and didnt want to make him wait around while i flopped things over his back LOL)

I'm not sure about using it as a saddle tree, since the website for wonderflex says standing/jumping on it can snap it (not sure about several layers though), plus leaving it in a hot place like in a black car during sunlight, can soften it! Maybe speak with a plastic shop near you for alternatives for a saddle tree that might be more weight tolerant?
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