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post #1 of 35 Old 02-27-2020, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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Pony's last chance at a saddle

This was Pony's last chance at a saddle, and I am not sure it's going to work. I tried this saddle with the XW gullet and thought it was a little too narrow, but with the XXW gullet, it seems maybe too wide. I hope @uncleararthur and others can weigh in.

The saddle seems to pop up a little in the back with the XXW gullet. It didn't do that with the XW gullet.

A couple of other things. The two pictures where I'm pointing at something. The one where I'm pointing near the top of the saddle, is where it pinched me almost unbearably. It was like the flap was, I don't know, I don't know what it would have pinched against, maybe the buckle made it bulky, but it really pinched. Is this fixable?

The other picture, I'm pointing at a dent in the flocking. It's this way on both sides. The gullet made the saddle wide enough for Pony's shoulders, but I guess his barrel isn't as fat as it looks, because the flaps stuck out a fair amount. Tightening the girth brought the flaps against his sides, but it made a crease in the flocking.

The barn owner wanted to see the saddle on, since I had it, so I showed her. She was like, "That's going to pitch you forward," and for once she was right. She sort of shimmed it in the front, and that made it less bad, but it still wasn't good. She also thought it was bouncing.

Is there even any point having the saddle fitter out to look at this?
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I just quickly scanned the photos as I have to leave in a few minutes - but at first glance that saddle looks too wide on him. I'll be interested in what others say.
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I wouldn't ride in that. It doesn't fit. Can't see how anything would make it fit right.

It reminds me of a little girl putting on her mother's high heels and trying to walk around...

Must be disappointing.
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I don't like it, not at all.
Appears to be leaning down and not going to be supportive of your weight on it.
Pinching Pony back is only one issue when you start to ride, work in this saddle and he becomes uncomfortable..
The stirrup bar pinching you, should not be happening if you were sitting properly in the saddle.

Either way there is some bulk under the inner thigh no matter what saddle you ride...sounds more the stirrup bar is not recessed properly to the tree.
I know its a new saddle, but it looks hard, uncomfortable and like cheap cardboard to me...
{I'm a leather snob I guess }
I don't like how the panels sit or appear by the spine either...

Just nope...
Box it up, ship it back.
To many red flags you already found to even go further is my thinking.
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Also, sorry, I tagged wrong, meant to say @unclearthur

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I don't like it, not at all.
Appears to be leaning down and not going to be supportive of your weight on it.

sorry...
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That's what I thought, too. But putting the XW gullet (rather than this one, which is XXW) would fix that, wouldn't it? But I guess if it made it too narrow for him there wouldn't be a point.

I was hoping to get some jumping training put on him, but I can't ask anyone to do that bareback. I'll wait and see what everyone else says, but looks like I might be looking into the treeless...

@AnitaAnne it's beyond disappointing. It's veered into frustrating territory now...
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I have a round round round thing with big shoulders as well. He goes in a Jorge Canaves for jumping that I found on eBay. It's a pony saddle at 16" seat. Their tree on their youth saddle- what I've been able to discern that this one is fits short backed and wide really well. It's almost a mix of an a frame tree and a hoop tree.
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@lostastirrup the first saddle I had was that brand. It also ended up being downhill and pitching me forward. IDK, maybe I could try it again with a shimmed pad or something. It was a nice saddle.
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@lostastirrup the first saddle I had was that brand. It also ended up being downhill and pitching me forward. IDK, maybe I could try it again with a shimmed pad or something. It was a nice saddle.
Interesting, they're not particularly common saddles as far as I know. I had never heard of them before looking at mine. Maybe look into Duet saddles? I consulted them about pony awhile back and they are really quite good.


There's also a fitter in my state who could take apart a spring tree saddle and adjust it to fit him- he's a master saddler who learned to build saddles in Europe. I could send you the info for him- you have to mail the saddle and maybe a mold of his back (one gal on here made one essentially out of paper mache several years ago) or detailed tracings. But he does a really good job. It cost me about $300 to have my saddle tree widened and the flocking adjusted.
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I was going to suggest Duett as well. My friend had great success with their saddle to fit her wider quarter horse. It was a no-go for Amber - we put it on her back and it was laughable how it didn't fit. But Amber has a much scoopier back than your guy.

I can feel your frustration, believe me. Only now that I've put in my order for my treeless do I feel like I have a solution. Of course, now I have to wait 8 weeks for it. But it'll be worth it just to have this headache over with.

I really think treeless might be a good option for you.

Funny story; when I got Amber and when I was finally putting a few rides on her at 3 - this is when I decided to try finding a saddle for her. Well, I was told time & time again that treeless would be my best option. I didn't want to go treeless, but honestly, if I had just done it at the get-go I would have saved myself thousands of dollars and tons of headaches. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
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