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post #1 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 01:04 AM Thread Starter
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Saddled putting a lot of pressure in shoulder

Hello again,

I’ve tried two more saddles (An unknown saddle, and the western wintec) and have a few questions.

For the saddle pictured, this saddle is too wide correct? Can this fit be corrected with shims or am I better off trying to find another saddle? The gullet width on this saddle measures 6 1/2”, I will double check however.

Second, I tried the wintec western saddle with semi quarter horse bars that measures 6 1/2” across the gullet and what a mess. I will post pictures tomorrow of it as my phone died before I tried it on. It sits fine when you initially place it on, pressure under the tree feels good when you run your hands under it, however, as soon as you walk the saddle just starts to slide back. As it slides back all the weight of the saddle just drives into her shoulder causing a pinch.

I’ve posted a picture of her back from the side while she is standing square as well as the wither cutout used for saddle shopping. There are no western saddle fitters in my area, and I’ve reached out to saddle fitters who offer online services but have yet to hear back.
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post #2 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 03:50 AM
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I agree that pictured saddle seems too wider. How about your other one?

Horse's back doesn't seem unduely odd to fit.
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post #3 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 07:10 AM
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Second shot shows it is WAY too far forward, over the scapula. You have to have it in the correct position before you can assess fit, but that it sits so low on your horse's wither, so obviously quite a bit too wide, I'd suspect it still will be when moved back.

Shims & special pads... Can indeed be helpful, if a saddle is *slightly* odd fitting, or it's a temporary affair, but it's not a good move to budget for them, or try to shim a terrible fit.
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post #4 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 09:06 AM
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I agree with loosie - its on the shoulder because that's where you've literally put it. Bring it back so when the shoulder has full rotation/movement it doesn't touch the saddle at all. It shouldn't be on the shoulder full stop. I can't speak so much for Western saddles so someone can correct me if you're talking about the actual saddle itself or just the thick pad beneath? When younger I was also taught to saddle incorrectly and I'd mostly guess where it sits. Once I learned that the saddle should not interfere at all with their movement or joints it became easier to adjust with that in mind. Same as girths - they shouldn't be shoved right under the armpit (belly allowing ofc :P) The difference my mare moves when saddle is too forward with her shoulder jabbing into it and then when it sits correctly is night and day. She's way more willing, forward and doesn't trip so noticeably. It is strange to have the saddle so far back at first but only because everywhere I look everyone seems to have it too forward and is the norm. Just something to bear in mind. I am not a pro when it comes to saddle fitting but just wanted to chip that in. Good luck saddle hunting and adjusting is a pain!
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post #5 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 09:17 AM
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We need some pictures of the horses back, each side and from above so we can see muscling, bone development and fat placement on the animals frame.
Small things you not notice on-level of and working daily can reach out to new eyes and give insight of what seen is creating a issue.


I'm not so sure the first saddle doesn't fit when it is better placed.
Yes, a good saddle pad can fill in gaps and not the best fit on many horses..
We need some more pictures, charge the phone fully and to the barn you go.


Do naked, then pictures of each saddle from the angles needed so fair comment can be made.
When you post those pictures, please do a post for each saddle and one for the horse being naked...
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post #6 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 04:55 PM
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BTW 3rd pic looks like freezer cubes - what's that for??
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post #7 of 15 Old 09-13-2020, 07:36 PM Thread Starter
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It is a soap container for traveling! And I was using it as a paper weight to hold down the wither cut out.

Here are some pictures, this is her naked. I tried to get her to stand as square as possible for these pictures.
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Pictures of the unknown saddle, measures 6.5” across the gullet
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And the wintec.
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the Wintec looks much better. with a nice 3/4 inch pad, it will be a good fit, I think
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