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post #1 of 62 Old 09-09-2019, 11:20 AM Thread Starter
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Where do I go from here?

Hi everyone, so my lovely little difficult to fit pony is a pain in my booty. I have had a few saddle fitters out and most of the time they say the saddle fits ok, but we do not have even sweat marks and I havent since I've owned him (about 6 months) I have attached some photos of those sweat marks and you can see he gets a lot of pressure on his shoulder area behind his withers. He isnt super tender though, I check him after every ride because those marks kill me and I want him to be comfy. One fitter that I had out said that he might be a bit too narrow for the saddle so I have a shim pad and we added padding, but that seemed to add even more pressure and he has been a bit more twitchy on his right shoulder.

The saddle has semi QH bars and has 6.5 inch gullet, we added a 1 inch diamond wool pad with shims in the front section, this is when we got the ruffled hair from the first photo. I also have a 5 star 7/8inch pad which I've also used and he still gets the dry marks, but no ruffled hair (2nd photo). Just not sure what I should try next. I am all for finding a new saddle also, anything to make this better. So just wondering what suggestions anyone has on pads to try or saddles since I dont know if i can get much narrower than what I have currently? Sometimes I think it isnt wide enough since the extra padding seemed to make things worse. BUT honestly I dont know enough about saddles or saddle pads to make a guess at where to start.
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post #2 of 62 Old 09-09-2019, 11:41 AM
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@AndyTheCornbread , tell us about those dry spots!
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post #3 of 62 Old 09-09-2019, 12:06 PM
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@AndyTheCornbread , tell us about those dry spots!
Those are the dry spots you want. They are from pads on the bars of your saddle properly distributing weight so you don't have quarter sized pressure points. That saddle looks like it fits good based on sweat pattern which isn't everything but if you have dry spots those are exactly the kind you want to have. It means your saddle is doing its job.
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post #4 of 62 Old 09-09-2019, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
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Those are the dry spots you want. They are from pads on the bars of your saddle properly distributing weight so you don't have quarter sized pressure points. That saddle looks like it fits good based on sweat pattern which isn't everything but if you have dry spots those are exactly the kind you want to have. It means your saddle is doing its job.
So is the ruffled hair ok? Or would it be better to stick to the thinner pad that gave the bigger dry mark without the ruffled hair?

Edit - added a photo of the other saddle pad we use, not sure if that helps.
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It also sounds like the 7/8 Diamond wool pad works slightly better for him so I would go with that although the 1" pad is fine as well.
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I am not as familiar with fitting Western saddles as I am with Dressage ones, but to my eye, this photo shows a saddle that is a bit perched up in front. Wouldn't that indicate a tree that is too narrow/vertical?


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I am not as familiar with fitting Western saddles as I am with Dressage ones, but to my eye, this photo shows a saddle that is a bit perched up in front. Wouldn't that indicate a tree that is too narrow/vertical?
That is possible that it is perched, this is the saddle pad with the shims in the front. I am thinking that with the extra padding I might have made the fitting worse since it sounds like the saddle might have fit properly with the thinner saddle pad. I am going to go back to using the thinner pad, or at least take the shims out of the 1inch pad and see if the ruffled hair goes away and try not to dwell on the full sweat pattern. I think it has been engraved in my brain to look for that.
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The 7/8ths pad looks like it fits better. I would go with that one if it is still an option for you, as in if it is still a pad you have.
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That is possible that it is perched, this is the saddle pad with the shims in the front. I am thinking that with the extra padding I might have made the fitting worse since it sounds like the saddle might have fit properly with the thinner saddle pad. I am going to go back to using the thinner pad, or at least take the shims out of the 1inch pad and see if the ruffled hair goes away and try not to dwell on the full sweat pattern. I think it has been engraved in my brain to look for that.



I didn't realize you had shims in there. Just out of curiosity, why did you have shims in front?


I bet taking them out will help.
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I'm sorry, I went back and reread your initial post (my bad, being lazy here) . .

Yeah, I would think ADDING a shim for the described problem is the exact opposite of what I would have thought best. Is it possible that the saddle is bridging? It can be hard to tell, but you can only really tell by running your hand under the tree and feeling if it is sort of 'loose' in the middle portion.If you feel a very mild bridging, you can shim THERE, in the middle portion of the tree. Start by putting a very thin small towel, folded, to add a bit of thinckness to only the middle part. (on top of the wool pad)


Also, for general saddle fit evaluation:
When the saddle is postitioned correctly, can you run your hand down under the front edge of the saddle, or does it feel really tight? Could you photo the saddle on the horse, NO blanket at all, cinched up?


Also, it might be that the saddle will ride better if you use a back cinch (and, don't forget a cinch hobble!)


when the saddle is placed on his back correctly, not cinched up, and you put one hand on the horn, and one on the cantle, can you rock it back and forth? a little, a lot, none?
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