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post #1 of 21 Old 02-03-2020, 01:22 AM Thread Starter
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Help! Looking for good APHA Stallion

Hi guys, I'm hoping to breed my mare next year, shes a homozygous black breeding stock APHA. Since she has APHA papers I feel like we need some color so I'm looking for a homozygous Tobiano stud but I'd LOVE an overo ( the mare is olws neg, black Frame overo is my favorite!) The problem is I'm picky lol I cant seem to find a stud with the conformation, breeding and show record. I'm looking for a reiner, working cow horse, cutter, even a nice all rounder or roper. Absolutely no halter horses or wp sires please.
Anyone know of a good APHA stallion????

I like Gay Bar Lucky Jac, QTs Cajun Cub, Ima Dirty White Boy and a couple local boys but I'm not completely sold on any of them. Any leads are very appreciated!! Thanks!
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post #2 of 21 Old 02-03-2020, 09:29 AM
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There are a few rein cow horses that I know that are good sires
One Time Pepto- 2001 Blue Roan https://onetimepepto.com/onetimepepto.asp
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And Shiners Voodoo Hes one of my favorite stallions
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I don't know much about Paint horse lines.
I was going to say QTs Cajun Cub. What about Cats Painted Illusion? He is homozygous tobiano.
Cats Picasso?

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post #4 of 21 Old 02-03-2020, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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I don't know much about Paint horse lines.
I was going to say QTs Cajun Cub. What about Cats Painted Illusion? He is homozygous tobiano.
Cats Picasso?
I am kinda new to the paint world myself, honestly this would be easier if my mare had aqha papers, there are a lot of nice QH studs but I am having trouble finding good paints! I'll have to check out the 2 you mentioned, I don't think I've come across those names before. Thanks!
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If your mare is registered APHA, you can breed her to a QH or a thoroughbred and still register APHA.
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If your mare is registered APHA, you can breed her to a QH or a thoroughbred and still register APHA.
I know but I feel like if you are going to have APHA papers they are better off having color. If she could throw color I'd be much more inclined to cross back to a QH but as it is I need a paint stud. I'm just amazed by the lack of quality in the majority paint stallions! Theres got to be more nice ones out there
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post #7 of 21 Old 02-07-2020, 02:45 PM
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IDK where you're looking for paint studs, but there's a lot of handsome fellows out there. Also, keep in mind if your mare is homozygous black, and the stallion is homozygous black frame overo (EE/aa; EE/aa/nO, respectively) you have 50/50 shot at 'color'. The other equal outcome is solid black. It's literally a coin toss.



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post #8 of 21 Old 02-07-2020, 02:54 PM
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Adding: I'd be looking for a stallion with a wildly different color than black. Your odds of getting multiple shots at color go up if you throw in something crazy, like say, a buckskin frame overo stallion with unknown modifiers.

You get an equal chance at a solid bay, bay frame overo, solid buckskin, or buckskin frame overo, with a lesser but equal chance at solid smoky black, black frame overo, solid black, or smokey black frame overo:


Offspring Color Probability

18.75% -
Bay Frame Overo
18.75% -
Bay
18.75% -
Buckskin Frame Overo
18.75% -
Buckskin
6.25% -
Smoky Black
6.25% -
Black Frame Overo
6.25% -
Black
6.25% -
Smoky Black Frame Overo


I love this website to play with color possibilities.

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Personally, I would test her for other white patterns and if she has any capitalize on that and those genes that increase expression.
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Personally, I would test her for other white patterns and if she has any capitalize on that and those genes that increase expression.
She's been tested, she doesn't have anything just HZ black
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