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Ok we are kinda new to the horse seen. Here's my question we bought two geldings one 3 months ago one two months ago and got a rescued thorobred gave to us last month. The two boys can eat out of same food bucket trade places what ever they stand side by side follow each other we brought banjo the mare in and the first day my older gelding kicked her like 5 times in 1 second she's super scared of him now. She's very polite she don't crowd them don't try to push her way very gentle with us and the geldings. But she will not get close to them she will not even eat with in 30 foot we have to feed her behind the barn them in front when the geldings go out to pasture she barely follows and when they come in to eat at night she don't wanna follow but she will finally. I'm wondering will this ever change?
 

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Ok we are kinda new to the horse seen. Here's my question we bought two geldings one 3 months ago one two months ago and got a rescued thorobred gave to us last month. The two boys can eat out of same food bucket trade places what ever they stand side by side follow each other we brought banjo the mare in and the first day my older gelding kicked her like 5 times in 1 second she's super scared of him now. She's very polite she don't crowd them don't try to push her way very gentle with us and the geldings. But she will not get close to them she will not even eat with in 30 foot we have to feed her behind the barn them in front when the geldings go out to pasture she barely follows and when they come in to eat at night she don't wanna follow but she will finally. I'm wondering will this ever change?
are making sure your mare knows that they are higher up on the ladder of who's in charge......that might change once she feels more comfortable. I never feed my horses out of the same feed bucket but they all have their own to eat their beet pulp out of.......if I hand feed the hay I always would put out 5 piles for 4 horses, always one more than the amount of horses so if they get kicked out of their pile they always have one to go to......
 

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I never feed my horses out of the same feed bucket but they all have their own to eat their beet pulp out of.......if I hand feed the hay I always would put out 5 piles for 4 horses, always one more than the amount of horses so if they get kicked out of their pile they always have one to go to......
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All our horses (four mares and a colt) wait patiently for their feed pan, but I wouldn't even think of having more than one eating from the same pan. Also, we put the colt and "bottom" mare in a pen together to feed them so we don't have to keep an eye on the others thinking about stealing their feed.
 

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I saw a video......

on how to work with a horse with food agression, the guy put a pan of food in the middle of a round pen and made the horse stay back and away from it with a training stick/buggy whip, the horse was not allowed to come into the food until it stood quietly and you invited them in........

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All our horses (four mares and a colt) wait patiently for their feed pan, but I wouldn't even think of having more than one eating from the same pan. Also, we put the colt and "bottom" mare in a pen together to feed them so we don't have to keep an eye on the others thinking about stealing their feed.
 

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You can not feed horses from same pan. Will cause a fight every single time.

And someone will end up needing a vet too.

Did you have them separated at all or just toss them in together?

Feed at distance, and so that they can't easily drive other one off of food.
 

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Omg. Folks I have 5 feed pans hanging on fence two hey holders two round bales and two large fresh water pans. The geldings end up eating together I can put feed in three pans and these two will share one then go to next pan. Just to clear that up. Main thing she's scared of my older gelding she won't even come close to water if he's by it. I'm hoping when she's feeling better because she was about dead she will put him in his place or he will at least leave her alone. she's for sure a female Only likes green hey sweet feed and fresh fresh water. And the barn. Thanks for reading but I think we was on the wrong track.
 

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You can not feed horses from same pan. Will cause a fight every single time.

And someone will end up needing a vet too.

Did you have them separated at all or just toss them in together?

Feed at distance, and so that they can't easily drive other one off of food.
We feed her behind barn them out front 60 foot away pasture is 4.5 acres she does fine by herself the geldings do fine together. and I don't feed them in one pan. Just the geldings like to share they get along and are like best pals.
 

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when I feed my horses they each have a dish on the fence, they have to put their halters on and be tied, no one goes till everyone is done eating.......never had a problem with them.....
 

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Feelings not really the problem mostly it's the geldings not liking the mare when she walks up they put there ears back the older one will chase her off and even stand in front of the water I'm sure it will get better.
 

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Omg. Folks I have 5 feed pans hanging on fence two hey holders two round bales and two large fresh water pans. The geldings end up eating together I can put feed in three pans and these two will share one then go to next pan. Just to clear that up. Main thing she's scared of my older gelding she won't even come close to water if he's by it. I'm hoping when she's feeling better because she was about dead she will put him in his place or he will at least leave her alone. she's for sure a female Only likes green hey sweet feed and fresh fresh water. And the barn. Thanks for reading but I think we was on the wrong track.
Mike, we've got the same makeup.....two geldings and a mare. They've been together 5 years now and the geldings are the same as yours. The mare, is continually submissive to the alpha gelding. The geldings will eat hay side by side and almost out of each others mouths.

The mare got butt bit for about a year, and to this day, keeps her distance from the alpha. It's funny though, when we trail ride, if the mare gets out of site of the alpha, he calls and calls for her.

So to answer your question, I think they'll find an uneasy peace but the mare will probably always remain leery of the Alpha gelding.
 

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The mare is new to the group and it will naturally take some time for her to become relaxed in her new situation. If she's an OTTB, she more than likely was never properly socialized as a young horse and doesn't have the skill set to deal with the gelding. If she got repeatedly kicked in a short amount of time, she obviously couldn't read his body language nor did she know the rules. The other issue is 3 is the worst # of horses to have in a group. Someone will always be odd horse out with no one to buddy up with. The #2 horse will always stick close to the dominant one to keep his position secure. Ears back, posturing for control over the water, kicking... are all normal horse language that one should expect every time a new horse is added. As long as it doesn't progress to running her through the fence, cornering her and kicking the crap out of her just let things work out on their own. Human intervention will just prolong the settling period. Make sure the gelding does know that YOU are the alpha when you walk in the pen. The mare will come up to you when you are in their pen. Than the gelding will walk up and when he gets too close to the mare, she will try to get away from him and run over you in the process. The gelding must be put in his place in that situation.
 

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You can not feed horses from same pan. Will cause a fight every single time.

And someone will end up needing a vet too.
Couldn't disagree more. Many large farms feed groups of horses together everyday. I feed a group of 6-10 geldings in an 8' feeder all together and no one has a mark on them. They have eaten this way for years. There is less jockeying for the "good" pan as they all get down to business so less waste and turned over feeders. Every farm I've worked on or visited, slopped the pasture horses as a group. You would spend too much valuable time feeding them individually. Some horses can't eat in a group situation but I think that comes down more to them as individuals, their herd skills and how you are set up to grain them.
 

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I have 3 geldings here and 1 mare, there is one alpha male and the mare knows to listen up to him........they've been together since they were all little so all the scuffling is done now.....
 

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I have been told that that issue is that some geldings will do a lot of mounting behavior when the mare comes in heat which is sort of annoying. Some won't however. My gelding was in with 6 mares! He didn't care in the least.
 
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