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Never had foal before. He was weaned at 5 months. I especially worried about his front legs. Finding vet for check up is difficult for my area. I will call one when I will be ready to geld him in a upcoming months.
Does he need additional supplements?

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This is a decent link that covers what you're asking. At this point I doubt major change could occur. Your vet and a good lameness specialist would be ones to consult. If a good leg vet isn't available then working with your vet phone consults or FaceTime type consults can be arranged.
 
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This is a decent link that covers what you're asking. At this point I doubt major change could occur. Your vet and a good lameness specialist would be ones to consult. If a good leg vet isn't available then working with your vet phone consults or FaceTime type consults can be arranged.
Thank you. May I ask if you see any problems with how they look from the side view?
 

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That colt is way too thin. He needs hay and lots of it. If you don't get some weight on him, he's going to suffer from it his entire life.
Windswept is when the foal's legs are curved from being inside the mare. To me, this is not what is going on. I had a windswept foal once upon a time, he straightened out in a few days.
Pour the feed to him, and take pics again in a few months.
In the mean time, call your farrier to see if they might do some corrective stuff with him to help those front legs.
 

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That colt is way too thin. He needs hay and lots of it. If you don't get some weight on him, he's going to suffer from it his entire life.
Windswept is when the foal's legs are curved from being inside the mare. To me, this is not what is going on. I had a windswept foal once upon a time, he straightened out in a few days.
Pour the feed to him, and take pics again in a few months.
In the mean time, call your farrier to see if they might do some corrective stuff with him to help those front legs.
When sun is up he is on the free range. Would barley and oats will be a good addition to they hay to gain more weight?
 

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No, you want a growth horse feed. 1 lb per 100 lbs body weight, maximum of 6 lbs of feed per day (3 lbs per meal). Also at least 10 lbs of hay per day. Make sure he actually gets all that food and not the adult horses. That means he needs a separate area to eat in. My colt did better after weaning because his dam was inhaling the hay and he wasn't getting enough, meanwhile the mare was as fat as can be. As soon as he was weaned, he gained really well.

Pastures go dormant at this time of year, so you need more hay. What type of hay do you buy?

I was looking at a horse for sale. They had yearlings turned out on a sparse pasture. They were the size of my 6 month old colt, due to lack of nutrients.

Given how immature this colt looks, I'm betting his legs will straighten out as he grows. But he needs better nutrition.
 

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I feel like that too. Get him up to weight and his feet trimmed first and foremost. I think you could do it with good high quality alfalfa, but I don’t know what kind of hay is available where you are. If he was mine he would have all he could eat of quality alfalfa for probably a year or so. As of now he almost looks stunted to me.

Now, our six month old colt is going through an awkward looking stage, and she’s dainty, but she looks obviously older and healthier than the colt you are showing, which is why I’m saying he looks stunted.

I think he may make a miraculous turn around with feed and staying on top of his feet.
 

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When sun is up he is on the free range. Would barley and oats will be a good addition to they hay to gain more weight?
No. He needs hay and a lot of it. Good alfalfa hay. He needs wormed as well. You're already behind the 8 ball with this colt on how thin he is. It's going to take good feed to get him back to where he needs to be.
 

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When sun is up he is on the free range. Would barley and oats will be a good addition to they hay to gain more weight?
What country are you in? Besides barley and oats, what kind of feed do you have that is easily available to feed to him? How long have you had this colt?
 

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What country are you in? Besides barley and oats, what kind of feed do you have that is easily available to feed to him? How long have you had this colt?
I'm in Ukraine. I also have fodder beet, beet pulp and will try to buy alfalfa hay for him. Hay that I have is from local fields but it doesn't have any alfalfa in it. It was enough for my other mares and they were getting fat on it but clearly isn't enough for him. He was born from one of my mares which I sold when he was 5mo
 

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Can you get deworming medications? He could use deworming and getting alfalfa, if you can, and beet pulp would be excellent. He is quite a bit underfed and is showing signs of stunting. If you can get sufficient feed for him now, he'll probably be ok in the long run. You'll still need a vet for his legs and feet.
 

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Can you get deworming medications? He could use deworming and getting alfalfa, if you can, and beet pulp would be excellent. He is quite a bit underfed and is showing signs of stunting. If you can get sufficient feed for him now, he'll probably be ok in the long run. You'll still need a vet for his legs and feet.
He was dewormed few weeks ago when I noticed the belly. How much beet pulp should I give him per day?
 

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As much as he'll eat. He needs feed down in front of him 24/7. Beet pulp, good quality grass hay, and several pounds of alfalfa. Just make sure you balance the alfalfa and beet pulp so that your Calcium to Phosphorus ratio is 2:1. Alfalafa is 5:1 Calcium to Phosphorus, Beet Pulp is about 10:1 Calcium to Phosphorus. Alfalfa is high in protein and beet pulp is low, you want an average not over about 16%. If you can feed some oat to blaance things out he should grow well and have good bone.

I don't know your horse's breed nor how large he's expected to grow. Looking at your photos, you say the colt is about 7 mos, but he looks about 4 months, maybe less. He's very small. How big would you expect him to grow?
 

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As much as he'll eat. He needs feed down in front of him 24/7. Beet pulp, good quality grass hay, and several pounds of alfalfa. Just make sure you balance the alfalfa and beet pulp so that your Calcium to Phosphorus ratio is 2:1. Alfalafa is low in Calcium and high in Phosphorus, Beet Pulp is about 10:1 Calcium:phosphorus. Alfalfa is high in protein and beet pulp is low, you want an average not over about 16%.

I don't know your horse's breed nor how large he's expected to grow. Looking at your photos, you say the colt is about 7 mos, but he looks about 4 months, maybe less. He's very small. How big would you expect him to grow?
Thank you! He is about 130cm, the dam was 150 hucul cross and the sire draft cross a bit higher
 

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Alfalfa has a 5:1 ratio of Calcium and phosphorus. Beet pulp is 10:1 calcium and phosphorus. Both are too high in calcium without supplementing phosphorus. Oats has a 1:3 ratio being higher in phosphorus.

If you switch the hay to alfalfa, you can safely feed oats to balance the calcium phosphorus ratio. I would not use beet pulp as it's too high in calcium and will imbalance your diet. Grass hay has an ideal ratio of Calcium and phosphorus but is lower in protein and energy.

You can feed 8 lbs of alfalfa, 2 lbs or more of grass hay and 6 lbs of oats- this should give you a 2.5 to 1 ratio of Calcium and phosphorus.
 

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Another option would be grass hay, beet pulp, and oats if you can't get your hands on alfalfa. Beet pulp is high in calcium as well but lacks the amino acids and vitamin A but it does provide quite a bit of calories. Alfalfa, grass and oats would be better. Too much phosphorus over calcium will create bone and muscle disorders so oats without the alfalfa or beet pulp will not be so great.
 
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