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As in Buck is better looking or what :? . Being a bloke I can't compare those qualities of male horsemen very well :lol:
No, because he teaches better and does things with horses a lot better.
 

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I personally just started parelli with the liberty and horse behavior dvd sets and I think they are very good because he helps you pay more attention to what your horse wants and feels instead of just making youe horse do what you want....I have watched clinton anderson and read his excerpt s in my monthly horse magazine and I find that he is very simliar to parelli just a littke more dry in the way he teaches...
I have used some of the material from both and my tb is a lot more responsive to parelli methods and he seems to enjoy it more as well....
So unfortunately every horse is different as well as every owner/trainer is different, and if your see a. Parelli based trainer he or she could also put a bit of there own views or twists on it as well, because when it comes diwn to it we are all different so weither it is parelli or anderson it turthful just comes down to what you and your horse enjoy more and always remeber. Your view is not the same as others so respect that abd just give advice of what you have experienced.
And yes buck branaham is awsome too, so try all three at least once and see who works better for you and your horse
 

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I think there's a definite disconnect between Parelli lessons and some followers. I've read the stuff and while the presentation at times is a little patronizing to me, I do like it. Some of the videos are ok too. I've given a few of the games a to with my horse but he does better with a more CA style of approach and that's the methods I primarily use on him. I say there's a disconnect because some of the most poorly behaved horses I've ever met we're strictly Parelli trained, so while the method seems decent it doesn't look like it works for everyone.
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Personally, what I've found, is if it's done the way it's meant to be done, which is adjusting things to the horses type of mindset and smarts so he understands and doesn't get bored, it works on every horse...
People tend to blame the way their horse is on either the horse himself or the way he was trained, instead of saying they themselves caused it.
In people's minds it works like 'people with horse problems'
in their horse's mind it works like 'horse with people problems'.

A lot of times I hear people say "Ohh, I tried this trainer's method, but it just wasn't for me.'
Does the horse get an opinion? No because he can't speak... The most inquisitive and well behaved horses i've met are all Parelli trained, properly. this includes mine
 

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By the way, I'm not saying Parelli is right and all other trainers are wrong.. i just hate how much discrimination there is against Parelli. I know from years of doing his methods and watching others use them that they work perfectly fine on every horse if done correctly.
 

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I agree 100 % with you nokotaheaven
 
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Pegasus, I was amused at your tactic for getting more active than your filly and how well it worked. Most people would try the opposite and get no where. We need to stop and assess if something isn't working and maybe try the opposite. I look at it this way, as long as a person isn't inflicting pain then it's ok to try new tactics and not worry if it's right or wrong. The horse will let you know.
 

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The greatest lesson my horse taught me is to live in the moment, because that is what we are all doing. We can't live in the past nor the future, but right now. The mind is a bit of an oddity in that it gets noisy, noisy with tho'ts of what has happened, what might happen and what is going to happen and we need to tame those noises. There's a misconception that if we hear voices, we are nuts. Surprise, we all hear voices, our own, in the form of thoughts. How many times have we thought "well if she says this, I'll say that" and make up this hypethetical argument when the situation doesn't exist. Those are the type of thoughts that keep us from peacefully enjoy "now". Your horse lives in the now, he doesn't think about what he ate yesterday or hope for a treat next week. It's not easy to clear the mind completely, it takes a lot of practice but try it when next you are with your horse. Think only of your breathing and nothing else. This quiets the thoughts in your head as you focus on breathing.
 

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I do 7 games with my horse and must say that it really helped me and him to understand each other better. He is a hotblooded ex-race horse:lol: the games make him think and work things out which keeps him calm and concentrated. I am very pleased with the results and I hope to go much further :p
 

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I became fascinated with Parelli after I vacationed at a Dude Ranch in Montana where all their horses were Parelli trained. It was a great experience and the horses were wonderful. I even played the circling game with one of their horses (with help from dude ranch of course)!

I was pretty new to horses at that point and had only been taking English lessons once a week for about 5 months so I didn't have much experience with horses on the ground. Studying the 7 games really helped me to understand "horse psychology" and made working with them less intimidating. My trainer let me take out a horse after my lessons sometimes to practice the 7 games. I only got through the first 3 games with one of her horses because she doesn't always have a horse to spare for me to practice with, but I find that I use the Friendly Game and Porcupine Game quite a bit around the barn for various scenarios (like asking the horse to move over in the crossties).

What I liked most about the 7games is that for horse novices (like I was before) it gives a pretty solid foundation of horsemanship, groundwork and allows you to understand the "why" of horse behavior so you can handle other situations by thinking it through.

I've not studied any of the higher levels, but I found the 7 games (level 1) helped me to be a better horsewoman when I was first starting out and I still use the principles along with what I learn from my current trainer.
 

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the key whizzer is when they are used like you are using them. As a tool but not in replacement of a trainer which is what far too many people do. Far too many inexperienced people get the DVDs and think they can just start training horses.

I find the games easy to understand and helps me with my communication with our horses as well but I rely heavily on the experience of our trainer for teaching me what steps to take in what situations. So while I like the 7 games and a lot of the Parelli method Im a huge advocate of having an experienced trainer to always help guide you along.
 
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When I first got my first and crazy horse, it was with the Parelli style that we both learned. I first tried CA, but the tapping stuff would make her see red. The giggling, gentler approach of the Parelli style worked best for us. I was also new to horses during this part of the journey and it helped me learn to read horse body language, slowly. It was something I could do with my horse to build a trust and relationship with her. I was in no rush to get on her and ride, just learn about her and have her learn about me, for months before I rode her. It was also something I felt coordinated to do, which I think helped my horse since I could be clear and consistent.

As the years have gone on now, and I have other horses, I change my method style as needed. I have had to use an approach where I need to be less 'gooey' and mean what I say 'now'. So, I do use some of CA stuff at times too. I really don't use one or the other, kind of a mix. I always love to start with join up type exercises to learn about what the horse is made up of in a matter of minutes...then I can decide what approach to take.

That being said, my first and crazy horse turned out to be a wonderful annd respectful horse. She was a pure joy for me and she was trained when all I knew was the Parelli style. It worked for us, but I can see when another approach may be needed for different horses.

Some of the stuff is really the same anyway....Yoyo game = Hula Hoop method etc. They use the same 'stick' etc.
 

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I have been learning from Buck Brannaman for 21 years. I believe in what he teaches and what he teaches is suiting for the horses and keeps the human safe. Having the horse conneted and respecting you is essential. I believe what he teaches and I teach what he teaches. I work with Mustangs, Problem Horse and Start Colts. I teach others the importance of being aware around horses on the ground and on their backs. I don't think playing games is the best way to work with a horse. I also think humans go to clinics and get a little bit of knowledge and think they know it and can get hurt, confuse their horses or get someone else hurt. If you are not an experience horse person and you are playing games with your horse there is potential for getting hurt. One of the reasons I have stayed with Buck all these years is because what he teaches keeps people safe. But people have to make a commitment and work at the methods any person teaches.
 

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Katie I will say this. The games are for you to remember that working with your horse should be fun for you and him or her.
Now I will say this when i started watching the level 1 material that PP has I would have expected more about safety in there. I mean he does show you some safety measures to take and how to do blocks to keep a horse out of your space but I have to admit Ive watched other trainers videos and they talk much more about safety.

This is also where having an expereienced trainer guiding you is important. Its pretty well stupid to think you can watch some DVD's and start training horses. I would say unless you as a person are already pretty in tune with how to work with horses then the DVD's aren't gonna be enough for you.
 
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