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Hi, Im not a great horseman as I don't have much knowledge just need them in my life. I have a 9mnth old filly who has no stable manners. Tonight will trying to groom her she turned on me and tried to bite me and then turned her rear on me and kicked. Generally she is quite pleasant. She was busy with her supper but I have never had this experience with her before. Advise would be greatly appreciated
 

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Welcome!

If you are a self-confessed newbie, your absolute best option is to get someone to give you a hand. She needs to learn her foal ABC's and get used to being handled etc
 

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You also need to learn to leave them alone while they are eating. Most horses do not like being bothered then.

No more than you would want someone fiddling with your hair or moving around you at dinner.

And this has been building and in your inexperience you have missed the things that those of us who have experience would have realized were becoming a problem.

You really need to get someone there on the ground with you, instead of trying to learn this from a forum, if you have someone that is.

If not, then you need to pull up threads on ground manners, how to safely handle a short yearling, and how to safely work with horses in general.
 

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Palomine, I disagree. At this age handling around feeding is wiser. If my horse is eating and I need to pull him off to ride (full livery) I don't want a hind end or food aggression to get in the way.
 

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You also need to learn to leave them alone while they are eating. Most horses do not like being bothered then.

No more than you would want someone fiddling with your hair or moving around you at dinner.

And this has been building and in your inexperience you have missed the things that those of us who have experience would have realized were becoming a problem.

You really need to get someone there on the ground with you, instead of trying to learn this from a forum, if you have someone that is.

If not, then you need to pull up threads on ground manners, how to safely handle a short yearling, and how to safely work with horses in general.
A horse shouldn't be bothered while they're eating, but all of my horses have to have manners, eating or no. Both my girls will tolerate me doing whatever I want, and that's the way it should be. Under NO circumstances are they allowed to bite and kick whether or not food is involved. Whether or not they "Like" being bothered, they're going to have to deal with it with good manners - just like they have to deal with other things they don't like (working, whatever) without biting or kicking.

It's just like a food aggressive dog. You wouldn't look at someone who had a dog that bites and snaps at people while eating and say "Well then don't bother him while he's eating!"

It's very easy for food aggression to turn into other aggression. If she's allowed to bite and kick while eating, she knows she has a handle, and she'll apply it elsewhere. Once she is quiet and allows people to mess with her during eating, THEN he should leave her alone.

OP: Do you have anyone to help you at all? A friend who has horses? You have to teach her her manners. A bite or a kick should bring the full wrath of you, get after her and make her think she's going to be eaten. Yell, wave things, chase her. Move her feet, show her YOU are the boss. But it would be good if you had someone to help you out.
 

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I have a 5 month filly at home. When I feed, is when I do my "messing around" with her, rub her all over, pick up her hooves, feel all over to get her use to me touching wherever I want. When I lead her, a couple of times, she's tried to rear and paw, then kick me, like she does her mom, I bopped her, told her no, pulled her head back down. Hasn't done it since. Once since, she has tried to head but me with her muzzle to get me to leave her alone, when I was putting her in the horse trailer, I bopped her on the nose. She hasn't done it since. I praise every positive, punish every negative. Was getting a bit mouthy, nibbling, just one bop on the nose, doesn't have to be hard. she stopped.
I am no way a trained trainer, just have had horses my 51 yrs, and quite a few foals, I've done them all the same and they grew to adulthood with no problems (or as problem free as a horse can be! lol) .
 

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I can handle every horse I own while they are feeding. However an untrained filly is going to listen to her instincts about protecting her food and finding a place in the pecking order.
Until she learns a little more respect I would refrain from handling or grooming her while she is feeding. You might find yourself smashed against the wall or fence. Shalom
 
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