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It's beautiful.

But that girl is waaaaay to big for that pony. But the other stuff is amazing.
 

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Well... I'm sorry I gonna be very harsh here (and all my comments are not related to the OP at all)....

First, I agree she's WAY too big for that pony. And frankly I don't get how she doesn't understand it herself. IMO it's something pretty close to abuse.

And second, some stuff she's doing are extremely stupid. :shock: Especially considering bunch of beginners and kids watching that and probably thinking "cool! why not to try that with my own horse!".

P.S. I do remember discussions here about Nevzorov methods she's using (too lazy to do some search). From this clip looks like he doesn't teach such things as "common sense". :?
 

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The girl probably doesn't wiegh 120 lbs and the pony is probably 4-500lbs. I don't think it's abuse in any way. The pony doesn't appear to be foundered and he is deffinately well broke regardless of the methods she used so the pony is better off than 80% of ponies. She is tall and looks funny riding the pony but the pony seems to be carrying her just fine.

Perhaps we need to think about the term abuse before we throw it at people.
 

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i agree shes way too big for the pony but he looks okay carrying her. i just hope she isn't riding him every day like that...

he looks like merry legs !! (from black beauty)
 

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i agree shes way too big for the pony but he looks okay carrying her. i just hope she isn't riding him every day like that...

he looks like merry legs !! (from black beauty)
I was sooooo thinking that when I first saw it!!
 

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Agreed with kevinshorses. Just because someone looks silly on a pony, does not automatically make them to big or abusive. This isn't someone who weighs 100lbs riding a miniature horse. She's tall, but so is Shay-la and she regularly broke in 13hh ponies. She looks ridiculous because she's 5'10" and all legs but she's 120lbs on a good day. Not one of those ponies had a single problem carrying her, and due to an experienced adult training them, all went on to good homes as very useful and trustworthy children's mounts which is ultimately what you want.

Very cute video and kudos to her on all her hard work.
 

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Horse suppose to carry up to 20% of own weight, right? And even that depends on horse's build (some may go over it, some under). From what I see I do NOT think it's under 20%. And horse is pretty slim build. So I still stand my opinion - it's way too much on that horse.
 

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i am a follower of this girl on youtube. and that welsh pony Karin is fabulous!! that weight is definatly not to much for a pony as ponies are built to carry more weight as that was what they were originally bred to do. this girl trained and broke this pont for her younger sister.. who also rides bareback and bridless as a 2 and 3 year old. go look at the rest of her videos then come back and say that.. the little girl can rear and make it bow and with a saddle and helmet and bridle she can gallop and jump the horse as well. that pony is highly trained and it needed an adult rider to do so. sorry if i seem rude but i am voicing my opinion. that horse and both girls adult and 3 year are great and the pony is in perfect condition. so i think it's absolutly fine. i have to agree with Kevin.
 

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look up lucas the worlds smartest horse on you tube. there are 5 videos. now THAT is a bond.
 

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I saw this a while ago. If you're not a professional, teaching your horse to rear is stupid. Most people consider it a dangerous vice and it pretty much destroys the horse's marketablility if you ever had to sell it. I know I would never buy a horse that rears, either as a vice or on command. I would certainly never put a little kid on a horse like that.

It's just a bunch of circus tricks. I don't see why I would ever need my horse to do most of that stuff. She needs a bigger pony, too.
 

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I saw this a while ago. If you're not a professional, teaching your horse to rear is stupid. Most people consider it a dangerous vice and it pretty much destroys the horse's marketablility if you ever had to sell it. I know I would never buy a horse that rears, either as a vice or on command. I would certainly never put a little kid on a horse like that.

It's just a bunch of circus tricks. I don't see why I would ever need my horse to do most of that stuff. She needs a bigger pony, too.
I fail to understand this mentality entirely. How is what she is doing any different then what anyone else does? This is HER passion. Training a horse to jump is nothing but a circus trick - unless you hit Grand Prix, you dish out whackloads of money to win nothing but a piece of ribbon. Trick training has just as much professional merit as any discipline - she could be hired by rodeos as a show, she could use her tricks to evolve into a more dependable mount, she could use her skill as a trainer to teach things like tricks or even help people develop better manners in their horses.

I don't see why my horse would ever need to know how to chase a cow - does that make cutting a circus trick? How many cutting show horses actually use their skill on an open range to work cattle farms?

I understand not wanting to trick train your own horse, but I don't see why it's necessary to look down on someone who finds their enjoyment in doing this as opposed to Dressage or cutting for example.
 

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Some of it looks awesome, but I couldn't get over the picture at the beginning with her laying on her belly under the horse. Trick training is all well and good, but let's be reasonable... that has a lot of potential to go very wrong and the poor girl will have no way to get out in time.

And while I have no problem with her riding the pony, she does seem a bit big to be having the pony rear while she's on her back...
 

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Wow! That girl should be very proud of what she has done with that pony. You can see the huge amount of trust between them. Amazing. I dont think she is too big, personally, the pony doesnt look to be in any discomfort carrying her or jumping for that matter! Awesome vid, thanks for posting!!! :)
 

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Tricks have alot of usefulness.. My horse can bow so I don't have use a mounting block.. if I drop my whip he can pick it up for me... ect. He does lot more than that but to me it all goes to flexibility and suppleness. I don't think its that bad to teach that small of a pony to rear.
 

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OMG why.... whyyy does everyone look at the negitive! Its ridiculous...

EVERY post about a nice bond between horse and human, or had to do with NH in itself has been put down!

Starting look at the positive in things my gosh! Yes the girl is tall but that little pony is having NO problem carrying her! Also the stuff shes teaching that little pony shows the strenth of the bond and relationship, im sorry if others think its stupid or what have you.. I garentee if you could do it with your horse you would be dang proud! Its not her problem if other careless kids go try that with there horses. People on this forum always say keep an open mind.. well half of you aren't showing a very open mind to this kind of stuff. Everyone has a reason to train their horses different things.

Im sick of only seeing negitive comments on posts like these..

Im glad to see the few that do appricate this type of stuff :)

I can slide off my horses neck, and rear end. I can climb underneath her, and she can bow and open doors and a bunch of other stuff... I can see pretty good reasons I would want to be able to climb under my horse or maybe side off the neck or rump... even opening doors is useful... Bowing is nice too for certin situations. Theres an arguement on everything about why you would teach a horse certin things.
 

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I'd love to hear the "usefulness" of laying under sitting horse. :lol:

People can have different opinions - whether they are positive or negative, and I see nothing wrong sharing those opinions. You may argue if you disagree with something said, but calling it ridiculous sounds pretty childish. Especially considering noone tried to offend in this discussion.
 
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