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Todays ride still makes me laugh!

Today I had jumps set out for Little, and Chance decided they were for her. No matter what there was no keeping here away from those jumps, I tried, silly mare. She was very proud of her self to say at the least. Now dont think she was being rude or mean about it. She had a nice canter going and I think she just wanted to make me happy and she just wanted to please me. I had so much fun doing it I mean the jumps were 2' and her not being worked let alone jumped in a month in a 1/2 to be able to do a course so nicely. It was her best course ever seeing that she was doing it herself!

After I finally got her to think about circling at the canter I got off her and praised her. Cause like I said it wasnt her being rude or mean just trying to make me happy. :) She was controlable to where I could slow her down or stop her.. but getting her away from the jump was the not gonna happen part. I guess she REALLY missed those jumps. Now lets hope shes still sound by tomorrow.

I feel like this years gonna be REALLY good.

Im also taking a dressage lesson on her tomorrow. IF she sounds. If not then ill ride little in it and probably do a jumping lesson. :)
 

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Totally agree with Wild Spot. No matter what you though she was trying to do for you, she was still being rude and not listening to what you asked. I reckon you should take Chance of the jumps for a while.
 

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It wasnt disobience to me this time because I could control her as far as the gait she was going at or even stopping her. As well at she did everything I asked w/t/c for 25 mins with out any fuss then she decided jumping was going to be fun.

Im happy she showed me she wants to jump again because that give me more to look forward to, seeing that we were told she would never jump again. to me it also showed she missed it and missed being worked. Also the fact that she was being totally relaxed about it and not rushy and flightly like she use to before her break. If she was in pain she wouldn't have willingly jumped, right? Or I hope not. I guess ill find out today.

I DO understand where it is disobiedience but I didn't want to really look at it that way, because it was fun for both of us. If it continues THEN ill start correcting it, but I feel like it was just her being playful and being like heyy look what I can still do, not a hey lets run away with my human. If it was that then I think she would have been galloping them more or less.

But seeing that shes NOT suppose to be jumping I wont be setting up any jumps when riding her. She never use to aim and go for jumps when they were out unless I asked so I didnt think muuch of it.
 

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I have several things to say, and you aren't going to like any of it.

First off, she is just barely back to being ridden. Just barely. The damage that could come from jumping a horse in her condition, or even a horse that simply hadn't been ridden for as long as Chance could be really severe. Jumping is HARD for a horse, it takes some SERIOUS conditioning. And yes, she could have been jumping even if she was in pain. Horses are prey animals. If a predator was coming after one in the wild, that horse would run as best as it could, regardless of any injury it had. Horses don't always know when they are supposed to stay still, and it is your responsibility as the owner to make sure she doesn't push herself too hard.

Secondly, she was not jumping to make you happy. Chance is not human. She is a horse. She wanted to jump, and she knew you'd let her. I doubt she could care less how you felt about it.

Third, every time you come in any contact with an animal, you are training it. You can let a horse cut a corner in the arena ONE time and that horse will try to cut that same corner EVERY time. You can't wait until it "starts to bother you." Horses are creatures of habit, if it's okay once, it's okay again. You just taught your horse that she can jump some jumps whenever she pleases without any kind of cue from you.

And this last thing is just a question... do you have the okay from your vet to be working her w/t/c as hard as you are? It seems to me that she is moving along very quickly, possibly too quickly. Of course, I'm not the vet, and I don't really know what the whole situation is.
 

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03-16-2010, 05:38 PM
Chance apparently has roughening on the navicular bone, and something in the suribus [sp?] Which can immobilize her movement... so basically she will never be 100% sound again. Were gonna try and put shoes on her and see if that with angle her foot just right and maybe she will be okay. If that doesn't work they want to do injections in the seribus [ which may mean money I dont have ] Which wont garentee anything.. it could go away and come back in a year.. maybe 3. The last option which I know I wont be able to do, which is trailer her down to a huge equine vet place thats around here and get her ultra sounded in that area and go from there.

Basically what she loves to do, she may never be able to do again. :\ Im in tears.. shes only 6 and doesn't deserve any of this.

After she gets shoes I can put her into some light light riding work.. but even then its not garenteed that she will be able to do her normal riding work.
Tomorrow, April 1st, Chance is getting her shoes put on for her navicular bone injury... They have to pull her toe way back, then put eggbutt? Shoes on her with a lifted heel in order to make it easier and less strainuous for her to move. Since its gonna be such a change for her im gonna wait a week before getting on her
I'm sorry, but can you explain to me how you went from "might never be able to do anything but light riding" and "I'm going to wait a week before getting on her because shoes are such a drastic change" to jumping her 2 days after getting shoes on, and just over 2 weeks after the original diagnosis?
 

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Thanks for posting that JDI, I was pretty sure it hadn't been that long since we learned of Chance's condition, but I can't keep track of time very well, so it could have been longer than I thought.

Now that I've re-read that bit, I have no idea what you think "light light riding work" is, but it's most definitely not cantering at all, and most likely not trotting. To me, "light light riding work" is walking, walk to halt transitions, and some circles. Depending on the severity, maybe some extra circles and serpentines and a touch of lateral movement. In your case, I would be sticking to walk to halt transitions and a few circles. A 15 minute ride, tops. Yet you are cantering, and allowing her to jump? :shock:
 

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I am pretty sure that she was not jumping because she thought it would make you happy.
She was controlable to where I could slow her down or stop her.. but getting her away from the jump was the not gonna happen part.
You just totally contradicted yourself. Oh, she was controllable. I could have stopped her, but she just happened to take me over the jump? I don't think so. And to what everyone else is saying- agreed. You are going to injure this horse.
Im happy she showed me she wants to jump again because that give me more to look forward to, seeing that we were told she would never jump again.
She wasn't showing you that she wants to jump. Horses are not human and therefore do not reason or think the way we do.
Now lets hope shes still sound by tomorrow.
You have no idea how bad this sounds.
 

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This is like a soap opera. Every single post she makes gets more and more outrageous.
 

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I had so much fun doing it I mean the jumps were 2' and her not being worked let alone jumped in a month in a 1/2 to be able to do a course so nicely. It was her best course ever seeing that she was doing it herself!
I'm sorry... but I just re-read this... you not only jumped her once, you did a whole 2' course?? Just over 2 weeks ago you got the news that your mare might not be able to EVER be ridden more than lightly ever again... much less w/t/c and jumping a 2' course (!) less than 3 weeks after the original diagnosis!
Add that to the fact that you said not 3 days ago that you wouldn't even be riding her for a week after she got her brand new corrective shoes on?
HAF, your horse needs rest and light exercise as per what your VET recommends. If he said no riding for 6 months, you don't ride for 6 months. If s/he says light riding only until further notice, you have to do that, or you risk making Chance worse, or lame for life.
Are a few jumps and rides right now worth that?
 

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I'm sorry... but I just re-read this... you not only jumped her once, you did a whole 2' course?? Just over 2 weeks ago you got the news that your mare might not be able to EVER be ridden more than lightly ever again... much less w/t/c and jumping a 2' course (!) less than 3 weeks after the original diagnosis!
Add that to the fact that you said not 3 days ago that you wouldn't even be riding her for a week after she got her brand new corrective shoes on?
HAF, your horse needs rest and light exercise as per what your VET recommends. If he said no riding for 6 months, you don't ride for 6 months. If s/he says light riding only until further notice, you have to do that, or you risk making Chance worse, or lame for life.
Are a few jumps and rides right now worth that?

She won't do anything any of us tell her to do. When she was having such crazy problems a few months ago, I told her to stop cantering all together until she's 100% at the walk and the trot. I told her to stop jumping, too. Not only did she not do that, she did much more of it. It is just getting ridiculous. She's getting very consistent feedback all the time, and its just like foam arrows bouncing off of a piece of steel.
 

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I bet she's not even going to read this, much less listen to what we're saying.
 

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Oh lord.

The vet suggested getting her right back into work w/t/c and said that she could easily start jumping by the 2nd week. Im following there orders.

The jumps were set out for LITTLE, not Chance. I wanted to have them all set up to save some time. It was NOT my choice to jump the 2' course. She did it herself.

I checked her today and shes still 100% sound. I wont be setting any more jump while shes around, untill its okay to start working with that again.

I understand what she did wasnt 100% okay but I was honestly fine with it and thats my choice weather u agree with it or not. I mean I wasn't okay with the fact that she was jumping when she was suppose to just be doing flat work.. but the idea that she was willing to go over them calmly without being asked was okay.
 

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Navicular injury, just newly shod and jumping? I'd get a second opinion. By the sounds of your last thread (I quoted it in my first reply) it sounded like she would be lucky to ever do more than a little bit of w/t/c ever again in her life, let alone 2 weeks later.
2 weeks ago you were contemplating selling her as a companion animal only. I don't understand this change. I don't understand how you can go from saying that you won't even be on her a few days ago due to her new shoes (which she does need time to adjust to) to jumping today. I don't understand how you can go from saying "she may never be able to do more than light work (which to me is a little bit of w/t and maybe some canter on good days) ever again" to w/t/c and jumping a course in two weeks?!

She didn't jump a course herself. She went where you told her to go. The fact that you "let" her jump the course... I don't know what to say. She didn't do it herself, is all I can think to say.

Good luck with Chance, HAF... I really am speechless at this.
 

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When Chance is limping and cringing so bad the it can not hardly make its way around the pasture, just be sure to remind yourself that you did that all because the dang horse "wanted to go over the jumps by herself"

I highly doubt disobedience was her problem at all, she was probably in so much pain that she was trying her best to get your tail off of her.


Nuff said.
 

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Oh lord.

The vet suggested getting her right back into work w/t/c and said that she could easily start jumping by the 2nd week. Im following there orders.

The jumps were set out for LITTLE, not Chance. I wanted to have them all set up to save some time. It was NOT my choice to jump the 2' course. She did it herself.

I checked her today and shes still 100% sound. I wont be setting any more jump while shes around, untill its okay to start working with that again.

I understand what she did wasnt 100% okay but I was honestly fine with it and thats my choice weather u agree with it or not. I mean I wasn't okay with the fact that she was jumping when she was suppose to just be doing flat work.. but the idea that she was willing to go over them calmly without being asked was okay.

Really. A vet just changed his mind and decided that since she'd be getting shoes, to just start into heavy, regular work w/t/c? This is interesting to me. Mostly, because I'm sure the vet considered the corrective shoes when they made the diagnosis, no reputable vet is going to say...

"Hey, your horse is irreparably lame, it'll never be the same. OH, but if you put corrective shoes on, yeah do whatever you want"

When did the vet come out last? Before or after the horse was shod? Didn't you say the farrier told you to put her back into work again?
 

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Really. A vet just changed his mind and decided that since she'd be getting shoes, to just start into heavy, regular work w/t/c? This is interesting to me. Mostly, because I'm sure the vet considered the corrective shoes when they made the diagnosis, no reputable vet is going to say...

"Hey, your horse is irreparably lame, it'll never be the same. OH, but if you put corrective shoes on, yeah do whatever you want"

When did the vet come out last? Before or after the horse was shod? Didn't you say the farrier told you to put her back into work again?
I agree. Either you are fibbing or your vet is straight up dumb.
 
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