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:Dokay everyone there is HOPE. if you read my post I was cruel you wil know I was working with a really bad horse, but thankfully I only had to use the cruel method on her twice, when I was first starting trails, and scond when I was trying to get her to canter in the arena without throwing an explosive fit. Today no fits(after using the method once yesterday) I just used a normal bit and halter. Here is what I was able to do with her, with no problems except one massive spook when another boarders horse came barreling down a hill towards us and almost took out a fence :shock:

First cantered in circles for about 10 minutes(she is very out of shape)
When cantering I did a few lead changes, she did them but seems to be out of practice, or its from being out of shape
Next we practiced neck and leg reining, she did both at a walk and trot but wasn't good in the canter
Next I stopped her, she got her feet under her good and backed up great
Then we did a few rollbacks, not great, but she knows what I was asking for! Which Is a good start
Collecting her was a little hard the first minute or 2 but when she realized pressure would be released when she did the right thing, bam she was doing great, and I think that will really help with her frustration. Someone with VERY hard hands was on this horse.
Then I side stepped her along a fence, at first was very confused, then picked up what I was asking and did a good job which I rewarded heavily because I think she was about to blow up from frustration and didn't:D
We then side stepped up to a fence and opened and closed it.
Now for spookiness assessment, I took out a tarp and had her walk over it a few times, at first she leaped forward but then got used to it and calmly walked over it
next I took out a flag and sacked her out with it, then rode around with it, no major issues there!
for the final part I walked her into our pond(it was starting to get hot). Awesomeness.
she also stood tied for a few hours last night and does ground work nicely, though pulls on the lunge line a bit.
The only thing I noticed she needs work on is standing while mounting which I think should be an easy fix.

I had some people say she wasn't worth working with because she was to dangerous but now I think there is a huge difference, the horse just had to learn blowing up wasn't the answer and every time she does the right thing I seriously reward her, which may not have been done previously leading to frustration and confusion about right and wrong, I just hope someone doesn't take this home and use it without proper knowledge, a horse like this should be left to a person who really knows what they are doing. rewarding your horse for the simplest things he or she does right really helps in the long run to prevent confusion. I will keep all of you updated on her progress! Heck I might end up keeping her for a while When the blowing up stopped she turned into a nice horse!
 

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Keeping those feet busy is the key! Good to hear that things have improved. :) Could ya throw away the dog collar though? You're killing me with that. That thing belongs in a museum. ><
 

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Good on you. Like I said, sometimes you need to give a shock to the system.. something entirely new.. and then move on to conventional training.
 
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Good on you. Like I said, sometimes you need to give a shock to the system.. something entirely new.. and then move on to conventional training.
Yes HUGE difference, rode this morning in an easy bit, was awesome. Listened great although is a bit high headed and hard mouthed, by the end of the session she was getting better. I think rewarding her was the biggest thing because everytime i rewarded her for something she really thought about it also it seemed to make her relax because she actually knew she was doing something right instead of me just making her do stuff and not telling her she was right. Pretty much positive reinforcement to correct behaviors now that we have blowing up out of the way. I also want to find out if she is easy to catch in the field so i can turn her out. In the arena she is fine, and everything you do on the ground with her she is fine.
 
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