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Hi, I got this horse last May and was wondering what you guys thought about him being a barrel horse. Hes is a reg. QH but has some Thoroughbred in him so kinda an Appendix. He is about 15'2 hands tall, hes only 5 years old. He has three bars in him. I also have a video of him pole bending at his first show. Just conformational wise and anything else you can think of.
 

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Can't really tell too much about conformation during a pole bending video. We'd need standing-still photos from each side, front, and back.

Your stirrups are too short. Lengthen them a hole.

Use your body to cue him through the poles. You are pulling on his mouth with your hands, like your other barrel video. Your hands should only be there as a guide.

Shorten your reins. They are too long.

Has he ever had his teeth checked? He shakes his head quite a bit throughout the run. It could be that he's frustrated at your hands pulling on him, but he could also have pain there too.

I'm posting this video so you can watch the rider's hands. While she does hold her hands higher than most people, look at how little they move. And watch what she is doing with her body. Yes, this is a fantastic pole run and not everyone is going to look like that. But this should give you an idea to keep your hands quieter, and keep your body more stable.


I think you've got a nice horse on your hands there. We just have to make some tweaks to your riding.
 

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The other photos wouldn't post and yes we had them floated about 5 months ago. And it wasn't my saddle I was using and could not drop the stirrups otherwise I would of I hate riding like that :p but oh well. And yes this was the same day of the other video and I use my legs to move him not sure how to do it with my body I'll try to get the photos to post
 

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For my opinion, refer to Beau's post above. It's a good one.

One other question- what kind of bit are you riding him in during that pole run? It kind of looked like a curb to me, but I couldn't really see it that well.
 

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Yes, I did I will surly work on it I for sure no thats one of my biggest problems just cant figure out how to correct it. Just a snaffle bit for him.
 

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Conformation pics, I don't see any huge glaring problems (although they aren't the best confo pictures). I'd like to see his hocks a little bit lower to the ground. In the last picture, his hooves look way long. Teensy bit long in the back, and his throatlatch looks skinny? (maybe the best way to describe it) Head is a typical "horse" head and nothing super pretty.

But all in all, not a bad looking horse.

Can you post a picture of the bit you use on him? Not saying you are, but some people are confused on what the word "snaffle" means. It looks like you are using a shanked bit on him in the video, but it is hard to tell.

And I don't see why your excuse is valid for the stirrups being too short because it wasn't your saddle. If you can take the time to adjust the cinch and saddle to your horse, then you can surely take an additional 10 seconds to properly adjust the stirrup length. Not an excuse. If you want to do a good job on the poles with him then you need to set yourself up for success.
 

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Ill post some better pics on him thanks tho! & the bit. Yeah the last photo was the day we got him and he was ankle deep in mud so we couldn't see his hooves we got him at an auction. The saddle thing it was a cheepo saddle and if I adjusted the stirrups longer the Blevins Buckles would cut the leather strap attaching to the girth and I honestly did not want to do poles girth-less. D:
 

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This is the other bit I use on my paint the Martha Josey Million Dollar Bit but I'm afraid to use it on him cause he is allooott more light mouthed then him. I'm not sure what else to use.
 

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The saddle thing it was a cheepo saddle and if I adjusted the stirrups longer the Blevins Buckles would cut the leather strap attaching to the girth and I honestly did not want to do poles girth-less
Hmm, I guess I don't understand how that would happen? Can you show a picture from underneath your stirrup leathers and fenders of where it rubs and how on earth it cuts?

THROW THIS BIT AWAY. It is one of the worst bits you can put in your horse's mouth. (Plus you've slapped a tie down on the poor fellow.)

That is NOT a snaffle, and that's why I asked you to post a picture because I knew you were confused as to what a snaffle is. Just because the mouthpiece is broken, does not make it a snaffle.

The bit you are using is a Tom Thumb. It has a horrible design, poorly balanced, a nutcracker effect in the mouth, and straight shanks that offer zero mouth relief. No wonder your horse is throwing his head. I would too, with that in my mouth.

Do not use that Martha Josey Million Dollar bit either. That's going to be too much for him.


This is a snaffle bit:



A snaffle bit means that there is no leverage and there are no shanks. (It really has nothing to do with the mouthpiece.) A snaffle bit is the type of bit you should be using on your horse for the time being, until you can fix his head throwing from the use of the Tom Thumb.



This is a curb bit:



It is a curb bit because it has shanks and it has leverage. This particular one has a solid mouthpiece.



This is also a curb bit, but it has a broken mouthpiece (what's called a dogbone). This particular bit is a Jr. Cowhorse bit and it one of my favorites.



This Jr. Cowhorse bit is still a curb bit (because it has shanks). A Jr. Cowhorse also is a mild gag bit, because the mouthpiece can slide around a little bit (on the reins on the side), unlike the curb bit above that has no sliding action because the mouthpiece is solid on the cheek.

However, if you attached your reins to the same rings the mouthpiece is attached to (rather than the bottom of the shanks) you can create a snaffle bit (because you are not using the leverage shanks).



For another example, this is a snaffle bit with a mullen mouthpiece. It is still a snaffle, even though the mouthpiece is solid, because there are no shanks and no leverage:


 

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Oh I always thought it was I looked it up and it came right up. that's also the bit he was started in, and had been using his whole life. It was recommended by his owner, so I just kept using it. I'll change the bit right away. I also just use a tie down on all of my horses. Anytime I ride them I but one on loosely, I'm not sure why but always have
 
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