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How often do you 'see them get slaughtered'? Are you hanging around slaughterhouses??
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Thank god no i couldn't stand it but i see it on youtube why idk it just happens :?
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Stop looking for things that upset you on YouBoob.
Honestly, horses die every day just like other animals and people. Death isn't pretty no matter how it comes packaged.
Honestly, horses die every day just like other animals and people. Death isn't pretty no matter how it comes packaged.
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Honestly the youtube videos are only showing the worst of it.
I'm neither pro nor anti slaughter...I'm somewhere in between. I don't like that it's a necessary evil, but that's just what it is. If there was a legitimately humane way to do it, I'd be all for it. Alas, there is not. I've never heard of the electrocution method. I do know that the bolt gun more often than not does not kill the horse and many horses under the bolt gun method are actually conscious when tied up to be slit...which I do believe to be illegal. I like the one place in Canada where they just put a bullet into their head...
In my perfect world (with slaughter still necessary):
It would be illegal to slaughter companion horses for consumption.
Private owners, kill buyers, etc. would not be paid for providing the animals.
Euthanasia for companion horses would be extremely affordable/readily available.
Food horses would be raised for such, like cattle or other consumed animals.
But so much for anything being easy.
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If you have a companion horse, why would you take it auction therefore subjecting it to slaughter ? If you r horse is too ill too old too lame you have 3 choices, let it die naturally (painfull), have it euthanized (painfull) have it slaughtered ( painfull) .
Horse meat.. not until the products used on horses state " safe for animals used for slaughter. Until then.. no way. Not my horses. But liek with the millions of cats and dogs that die every year , what happens to the unwanted horses, starved to death ? shipped to Mexico used for Charro rodeo tripping ? tortured before slaughtered.. There is one solution.. if you get a horse, keep it until it dies. Dont be breeding .
Horse meat.. not until the products used on horses state " safe for animals used for slaughter. Until then.. no way. Not my horses. But liek with the millions of cats and dogs that die every year , what happens to the unwanted horses, starved to death ? shipped to Mexico used for Charro rodeo tripping ? tortured before slaughtered.. There is one solution.. if you get a horse, keep it until it dies. Dont be breeding .
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I don't know about any other places, but the horse industry here is kind of taking a brutal landslide. With the price of hay a lot of people can no longer afford to keep their horses anymore and no one wants to buy, so what are they supposed to do with these horses that they can't sell? To be quite honest I would rather send my horses to slaughter than let them sit in their paddock and starve to death. It's a sad reality, but without slaughter there would be twenty times more cruelty cases.
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Why do you say humane euthanasia is painful?
I am curious how many people on this forum have actually received any training in regards to the slaughter process, or even euthanasia for that matter. There are indicators we look for to ensure that these animals pass in a painless, humane manner. Spasms are normal and do not indicate pain. Instead, look for a "righting response" when the animal is hung for bleeding. This means, if the animal is truly unconscious, it might thrash but the neck will remain limp because the animal is not trying to right itself.
It is normal for an animal to be rendered unconscious, not killed, prior to slaughter. This facilitates proper bleeding. I am not against slaughter, but it needs to be humane. Most slaughter facilities are not designed for horses. They are designed for cattle, which think differently than horses. Cattle should never see people in a good slaughter facility, and should be relatively quiet as this indicates they are not overly stressed.
Proper restraint ensures that whatever method of rendering insensible to pain is used, the animal will go down with one hit. A squeeze chute for cattle should close from both sides not one side. Do horses respond to squeeze chute? I don't know, I haven't seen any research on that subject and I have never put one of my horses in a squeeze chute. I have been to large slaughter plants when the pneumatic captive bolt gun was defective so they had to hit the animal a second time, with a backup, and it was very quick, I don't think it caused undue stress.
I encourage everyone to do thorough research on slaughter and euthanasia. It doesn't have to be a terrible thing. We as humans have the power to "play God" by ending suffering, and euthanasia is truly the final act of love, not something to be feared. I wouldn't personally eat a horse that hasn't been raised for meat, but who am I to judge people that do. As long as the animal is humanely killed, I see nothing wrong with not letting the flesh go to waste.
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How can you say it is not Painful ? Are the nerve conductors attached to show that the nerves have not responded ? Euthanasia basically stops the heart.. have you watched the face of a horse that is being euthed ? and i have seen a horse that while still breathing spasmed . Being shot hurts .
I did forget a fourth option.. you can send the horse to a zoo , large cat facility, and they can put a bullett in its head and use it to feed the lions etc.
I did forget a fourth option.. you can send the horse to a zoo , large cat facility, and they can put a bullett in its head and use it to feed the lions etc.
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Yes, I have. And if that is your experience, then your vet is not doing it right. A sedative should be delivered before the shot that kills the horse.
And if you are not doing chemical euthanasia, then one well-placed bullet would drop the horse without it even knowing what is going on.
In my personal experience, the most pain comes from the reason you chose to euthanize.... hence the need for the euthanasia.
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I watched the Vet Sedate the horse,I was holding the lead rope and it was enough . I am not against Euthanization, slaughter or a bullet to the head. I just do not consider them to be pain free.. LEss pain than abuse less pain than starvation.
I am against using horse meat , That has been treated with Medications that state DO NOT use for animals intended for slaughter, for human consumption.
I am against Charro rodeos, cow tripping, tiping and same for the horse tripping. I am against BUll fighting as done in Spain. I am against Dog and Chicken fighting. That is all painfull to the animal . I am against breeding just because you have a mare or stallion. Same for dogs,, cause you are just gonna get rich doing so.
I am against using horse meat , That has been treated with Medications that state DO NOT use for animals intended for slaughter, for human consumption.
I am against Charro rodeos, cow tripping, tiping and same for the horse tripping. I am against BUll fighting as done in Spain. I am against Dog and Chicken fighting. That is all painfull to the animal . I am against breeding just because you have a mare or stallion. Same for dogs,, cause you are just gonna get rich doing so.
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As a veterinarian, I have euthanized horses as well as other animals to relieve their suffering and pain.
It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.
Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.
It is incorrect to claim that it is painful. The barbiturate in the drug anesthetizes the animal. The potassium stops the heart.
Have you ever been anesthetized? Same difference, except they don't wake up. It is like turning out a light.
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Thank you for reiterating this. Again, I feel that those who believe this causes pain either have seen it done incorrectly, or they do not understand the body's response to the process.
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I stated I believed it was painful. I have had over the years, due to horses age , guts failing, old dying horses euthed. THe horse I saw in PAIN had been tranked, had the full kill dose. THis horse when it hit the ground, tried to rise, curled her legs up bought her head and neck and it was awful. The horses nostrils were flared , it Moaned , Now it was not like 5 or 10 minutes went by, it was probably within one or two minutes, but that horse was in pain . It still Haunts me. Maybe the VEt had done something wrong, but with the full dose that horse felt it. One VEt did not admin enuf on a huge draft, and that horse had to have a second full dose, and it did not show as much pain as the mare , but the facial expression on the Draft was awful also.
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Yes, I agree. And personally, if this was the same vet who did both of these euthanasias I would not ask them to care for my animals again.
I interned at a rehab center this last summer. Sadly, a lot of animals have to be euthed because we just can't do anything for them. Every single one I witnessed was painless and humane. The animal - whether it be a fox or a tiny sparrow - was sedated and put under, and then delivered an injection into their heart. The last thing any of them remembered was peacefully falling asleep, and that is how it should be every single time any animal is ever put to sleep.
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Hon, i appreciate your concern for the welfare of the horses. Some posters are incorrect in stating the majority of posters on this forum are pro slaughter. I do not recall filling out a survey question when i registered asking my stand on equine slaughter. I am not pro slaughter but am in favor of humane euthanisia of stupid owners.
If you would like to make a difference, volunteer at a local rescue and read, read, read about the issues. We all make a difference in this world. We just need to decide if it will be good or bad.
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If you would like to make a difference, volunteer at a local rescue and read, read, read about the issues. We all make a difference in this world. We just need to decide if it will be good or bad.
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Unfortunate is having your mare's ashes returned to you in a Tupperware container. Unfortunate is paying a vet $18,000 for colic surgery and they don't bother to use abdominal mesh. Unfortunate isstanding by when a vet promises your mare will go peacefully and she screams and thrashes in pain while the tech runs to the truck for more meds. What is the most unfortunate is that there are people practicing vet medicine who should not have made it out of vet school. If i sound angry, you're right but i also know if a vet isn't from Hagger or Roode they're not touching my animals.
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I'm so very sorry to hear that. That is so sad :-( if i own a horse i hope i don't have to go through something like that but either way your words are kind and i understand
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I am so sorry for your loss. Vets are only human just like the rest of us. And as such, they make mistakes. The most horrific animal death I have ever witnessed was a botched castration. Perfectly routine, textbook procedure. Vet was fresh out of school, came highly recommended by the regular vet who couldn't do the procedure that day. He missed an enlarged inguinal ring and the animal was eviscerated. He didn't believe me when I called to say the poor creature's guts were out. I waited an hour for him to come back. Another hour for the vet to clean the intestines and stuff them back in. He ended up dying in my arms... with only two stitches to go. I will never, ever forget walking into the barn that day and seeing him stagger to his feet and trying to come to me with his guts hanging out. It still haunts me in my dreams and was nearly two years ago... Do I blame the vet? Not really. Yes, it was entirely preventable, but we all make mistakes. I bet you that vet will NEVER make that mistake again. It is a shame that an innocent creature I loved had to suffer so horrifically, but his ultimate sacrifice made the world better for other creatures.........
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