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Hi all! So I am new here and I am very frustrated. I have a small 3 stall barn with a feed room and hay room behind the barn. We have grass paddocks and a sand arena in the works. we have a room on the side of the house that is air conditioned and locked for tack. We got our first full boarder about a year ago and the first 4-5 months were great! The nicest lady, she has been out of horses for 30 years and she only owned her horse for about 6 months when she moved here. She did not know much but was very open to my advice.

Well things have not been good for about 5-6 months now. She started to become very strange. So the boarding agreement is $600 a month (average here) and her horse gets a stall, cleaned daily, water cleaned daily, grain AM/PM, and hay 3-4 times a day and daily turnout. I also gave her my horses stall in the back of the barn which has a small turnout connected to it. My two horses go out separate at night (my horse will freak if he is left in the heat) and my light horse gets sunburned. My pony and her horse go out during the day.

It started when I allowed her and her husband to cut part of the fence and put chains up to connect his turnout to the big paddock. That way he can go in and out of that stall. I thought it was a good idea and didn't mind. Well that area soon become "his paddock" and she would freak if any other horse was in there or if I locked him out of his stall because he would sit in his stall all day. He would start to stock up on his back leg and she would come and hand walk him 3 times a day. Then she would come back and it would be blown up again so she would start crying and freaking out. I tried to tell her that it is not a big deal and it is just because he sits in a stall almost 24 hours a day. I locked him out one day - all day- and his ankle never blew up. She freaked that I left him out and said he will die of heat stroke (the paddock has water and half of it is covered in shade all day). So she insisted his chains be left open. He would sit in his stall all day and his ankle blew up again. The vet came said he was fine and it was just cosmetic but sold her an 80 dollar cream that would keep it down. She insisted trying to tell me it was a "medical condition" even though the vet said otherwise and he "NEEDS" to have access to his paddock and stall 24/7.

Well when my pony came home from training, she was in heat and frazzled from the move. She is a 4 year old, very high energy pony. So she would go in at night in the stall next to my boarder's horse and out during the day because we only have 3 stalls and now 4 horses. I had to lock her horse out of his stall so they wouldn't get hurt if they went in the stall together. Well she got mad so she locked my pony in the small paddock without water, so she could open her horses stall up to the large area. My pony would also go and put her nose through the boards in the stall and her horse would bite her and she would squeal and squirt. Well my boarder FREAKED out and started smacking my pony in the face saying she is a ***** and makes her horse mean. I freaked on her and almost kicked her out but she promised not to mess with the turnout arrangements or touch my pony again.

Also not to mention every time he gets hurt - (coliced once, cut his leg another time, and ripped a huge chunk of skin out of his chest) it is my light horses fault and she demands my light horse be kept away from her horse. It is never her fault and They are never near each-other except when she puts him in his stall during the day when hes supposed to be out.

So just this week, she came up with this "bright" idea to take his old halter and tie it around the post in the back of his stall. and when she brings him in the afternoon she hands his 20 pound bucket of hay cubes on it. (her horse is so overweight but she keeps stuffing him) she also moved his haynet because him and my horse "fight" and my horse annoys him and eats all of his food. (through the stall in a haynet... right...)
So she left and was going to come back later to let him back out and when she leaves he starts pressing his butt against the boards, and kicking out at my horse. My horse screams and rears up almost flipping over. he keeps kicking kicking and kicking. So i grab him, put him outside with the pony and he calms down and doesn't lift his head off the ground.

So i texted her and asked her not to move his buckets/haynets and to not feed anyone unless all the horses are getting fed. And I said i put him outside and now he is fine. Well she said to me that her horse is too gentle to do that and it was my horse who always starts it. She was also questioning why I feel my hard keeper so much grain and hay when her horse gets so little and that its not fair. She also mentioned how her and her horse NEED their own place.

Im at a loss for words! She over-feeds the crap out of her already foundered horse (feeds him a whole bag of carrots at one time for a treat, steals hay, gets mad that I only feed my horses alfalfa and not him, and feeds him 40 pounds of soaked hay cubes a day.) Everytime he does something stupid and gets hurt it's my horse's fault, and she comes to my house 5-6 times a day to check on him. She brings him in between 11-4, so he only gets about 4-5 hours out a day. and she refuses to let him out at night because he will get hurt.

And she will not listen about how he is overweight, and needs more time out everyday! she think he is really really old but he just turned 17! She also made a comment about how boarding here is like A la carte - you have to pay for everything extra!!

I don't know what to say or what to do?! she is so stubborn and thinks she knows everything! After this week I am about to make it that he is either out all day or all night. That he cannot be fed during non feeding times, and that she needs to stop pointing fingers at my horses. I do so much for her and her horse and try to make her comfortable here but she is never happy it seems! and she is constantly acting like I do not know how to care for her horse properly.

But the point of my rant here is... am I being to sensitive about all of this? Or do I have the right to be mad!
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Oh yikes....that was hard to read. I know it's easier said than done to kick her out, and you will lose money, but someone's going to get hurt.

You seem like a very nice, patient person who is dealing with a load of crap from this woman. I mean, she locked your pony out of your stall with no water to get revenge???? What the hell?! I wouldn't deal with that! Not in my house, woman! She seems so clueless that either your horse or her horse is going to get hurt very soon due to her stupidity and lack of knowledge.

I don't think you're being too sensitive. I think you were so patient this whole time up until now! I would be so angry. I say kick her out. It'll be hard to do because you're very nice, it seems, but it has to be done. She's going to screw something up one day that won't be reversible. Please get rid of this awful woman! I hope you find someone to take her place, soon! Good luck!! Keep us updated.
 

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Thank you all... I'm all for giving second chances even though sometimes I know I shouldn't. And when I tried to kick her out the first time she started crying and giving me a sob story and I guess I just need to toughen up! I just wish everyone could be happy and peaceful!!!
 

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This is your barn at your HOME. It should feel like a sanctuary, not a hell hole. If she doesn't like it tell her to pack it up and move. In the future include in your board contract that if things "aren't working out" you'll give a months notice for the boarder to arrange moving. It's not worth the hassle! You can find a better boarder who will obey the rules, or at least take up their concerns with you w bit more maturely.
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It sounds to me like the two of you are just not a good match. I can see some things that are unfair for both sides and see why both would be unhappy. I'd sit down with the boarder and make it clear what is and is not included in the board.

Do away with the connection between the stall and the paddock- if the horse is out, then it's out, and when it's in, it's in. From your description, you're not set up to give her a private paddock. If that's what she needs she'll need to move.

I'd recommend reconsidering if you want to have a boarder at all. No one is going to have the exact same thoughts on care as you, and it's clear that it bugs you that you consider her horse overfed, kept in too much, etc. It's her prerogative to manage her horse as she sees fit unless it conflicts with the terms of the boarding contract (for example, if the contract stated that the stall was only 'hers' at night to allow you to rotate the 4 horses through the 3 stalls, then putting her horse back inside whenever she felt like it would violate those terms)
 

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verona1016... I know I will never have the same ideas as others as far as care and I have tried to work with her. I did do away with the turnout so when he's in, he's in and when he's out, he's out. But the issue is - he is terribly obese and he has lamitis and has already foundered once. I do not want to see something happen to him and the other issue is that when something happens either because it was a freak incident or it was her or her horses doing... She FREAKS out and starts pointing fingers at me and my horses. She crys and throws stuff and has a total meltdown. The reason why I want him to have more time out is because he does not get along well with my mare who is next to him during the day and that is what caused him to almost knock my barn down and almost caused her to flip and he got his leg caught in the board. Now if I wasn't there to help him get in out he could of gotten really hurt and it would have been my or horses fault. As soon as he's outside, he's perfectly fine. And when he's in at night with the pony- they are great.
 

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Also... I did talk to her this morning. It did not go over well but I gave her a months notice and I really might need her to leave sooner. This morning I caught her messing with the already pre-measured grain and supplements. Telling me that she didn't believe I put in all his supplements (which I do for every PM feeding) so she doubled them and added another half scoop of grain.

I called the lady who told me about her when I was first looking for a boarder and she was the one who trailered her to my place. And she said she's been kicked out of her barn and one other barn within 6 months of coming to mine but she thought she'd do better here since its private. But she refuses to do anything more with the lady so she will not trailer her somewhere else. And I do not have a trailer
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I think it is good you gave her notice to move. While a person with one horse kept boarded may not need a trailer, I think a place with multiple horses and/or that takes in boarders does need one, so that is another good reason for her to move.

Many/most times I have seen boarders move their horse, the new barn comes to get the horse so that should not be much of an issue for her if she can find a new facility.

I'm a little stuck on a detail - hay cubes are sold in 40 lb bags at the local TSC for $14-$18 per bag. Is she actually feeding her horse a whole bag of cubes every day? In addition to hard feed, hay, and grazing?
 

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My neighbor lets me use her trailer and she trailers for me sometimes but she knew my boarder from the previous barn she was at and wants nothing to do with her. But I'm not worried. If she has to walk, oh well! There are barns all down the roads! Haha just kidding... Kinda..

And anndankv - he gets a half scoop strategy AM/PM, a couple handfuls of a high fat rice brand supplement (she insists on him getting a scoop but..) and about 5-6 decently heavy flakes and light grazing. And no an entire bag daily but she goes through about 4 bags a week. And it's straight alfalfa. And not to mention she either gives him 4-5 apples, a 10 pound bag of carrots, or if she forgets to bring something - half my jar of purina Apple cookies >:l all in one sitting for "treats". It's madness since hes such a easy keeper and he is out of work right now, even when he's "in work" it's very light riding. Her words - " I could keep stuffing him until it's coming out of his sides!" ....
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^Does sound like it's coming out of his FEET!!!

good for you. Now big breath and ignore her. Do the bare minimum for her horse (feed/water/turnout) whatever is in your board agreement or is basic care. Be careful as I feel she may not respect that you gave her notice.
 

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Yes it is quite a relief... Once she is gone I'm going to give myself a little break, and I will put an ad up for another boarder as the money helped greatly but I will have to give an interview first!!! Before I owned this property I have boarded my horses at other barns all my life and I have seen some very strange things but this past few months tops it all that's for sure!
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when something happens either because it was a freak incident or it was her or her horses doing... She FREAKS out and starts pointing fingers at me and my horses. She crys and throws stuff and has a total meltdown.
She would have found every single thing she threw tossed on the other side of my fence (outside the property line) and when she quit throwing things I would stick the lead rope in her hand and say, "Get out, NOW." and that would be the end of that. She's taken you and your horses hostage to her insanity and you're letting her keep it up. Glad to read you gave her notice, don't back down.
 

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Yes I am not backing down... Have not talked to her since this morning and I do feel like a fool for putting up with it for so long but I just assumed she was going through some stuff and everyone deserves help and a second chance. Learned my lesson!
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