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I didn’t really intend on starting a journal (because I don’t know how good I’ll be at keeping it up) but I wanted to document some stuff and this seems to be the best place.

Background on Cade: I had been looking for a backup paint horse for drill performances/parades to give 21
yo Skip a break from our busy schedule during performance season. Some of the rodeo weekends include three nights of performances, sponsor flag runs, maybe a parade and/or personal appearances and I would like Skip to stay healthy and sound, so was looking for a potential backup. After going through a few that just didn’t seem to be suitable, I had pretty much given up. My sister, however, (who is also my teammate and our team director/coach) continued to look behind the scenes on my behalf and unbeknownst to me, found Cade, a (now) 9 yo grade paint gelding, 15.2-15.3, barefoot, passed a minimal PPE, with the intention of taking him on a week long trial basis and if he worked out, purchasing him herself to work with him and see what she could do with him. He had been born on his former owner’s property so she was relatively sure of age. He had not been exposed to much, it’s questionable if he had been even hauled off property.
He had had no vet appointments and didn’t even have a Coggins. He was strictly ridden around the pasture by the former owner and even that was sporadic due to her starting her family.

So..my sister and BIL (who is a farrier) went to check him out (he was a couple of hours from their location), and my sister thought “Well, he doesn’t know much, BUT he’s also basically a clean slate.” So they negotiated a week long trial with the owner with the understanding he would either be returned or purchased at the end of the week. They loaded him up and brought him home.

During the week trial, she worked with him every day and based on the potential she saw, went ahead and purchased him after having him seen by her vet, getting an up to date Coggins, and her farrier husband checking out his feet.

She started him with the basics, but did something with him every day for six weeks. After loading in the trailer to come home, he wouldn’t load again in the trailer for maybe a couple of those weeks! Eventually they worked their way through that, and she was able to expose him to a variety of stuff, including hauling to a local arena, riding around her neighborhood where there’s a “dog gauntlet”, UPS/FEDEX trucks, tree trimming equipment, holiday decorations, school buses, kids on bikes….just a ton of stuff to expose him to. After six weeks, my BIL brought him to my house (I live a couple of hours from them). My sister said I could try him as long as I liked, and to only bite the bullet on purchasing him if he was “the one”.

When he arrived, I had 20-plus year old Skip (gelding) and 5-6 yo Poppy,
a grade mare. It was obvious from about the second day that Poppy was an issue. She was already mean to Skip and she joined forces with Cade, and they were both mean to Skip. I’ve had Skip 18 years next month. No one gets to be mean to him for long! Poppy was also in love with the gelding next door and she and Cade tore down the fence to get over on their property. So….the first order of business had to be finding Poppy a new home. She was strictly a companion for Skip and had been free to me..I wasn’t really attached to her. Although I have plenty of room for three horses, I’m just better with only having two. Found a wonderful new home for Poppy through my farrier and she now has a 10 year old little girl to love her.

Back to Cade! I rode him shortly after he arrived here, and I really liked him. He’s affectionate and friendly like Skip, stands for mounting, stands to be saddled and bridled, isn’t hard to catch in pasture (thank goodness, they are on 9 acres!), is great for farrier, and IS broke to ride, and during the time my sister had him, he wasn’t spooky. His cons initially were: he doesn’t neck rein, is pretty dead sided, paws when tied to trailer and he balks.

While my goal is to get him ready for drill by the summer, his first events will be parades, which is simply walking a route with the other horses. There’s a lot to be considered: high school bands (none of the horses like the drum lines!), balloons, crowd noise, everyone carries a flag, pavement, wagons, Shriner cars, weather, you name it.

Our rides were going well, but due to the holidays and our insanely bipolar Texas weather, were not as consistent as he had been getting at my sister’s. I have no arena to haul to around here (or not that I’ve found after two years of being here), so the rides are either in my pasture or along the road.

Everything was going pretty well, until……

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LET’S SPOOK, SHALL WE?

Since the first parade of the season is approaching and the weather finally broke, I decided to up the pressure of our rides by exposing Cade to a few more weird things. I had my DH ride with me on Skip, just in case things went sideways. Saddled up and headed out on a ride along the roadside in our rural area. The roads are paved, and there are some grass shoulders on each side…sometimes they’re mowed and more often not.

Anyway here we went. Headed around the corner and low and behold, one of the neighbors had moved their longhorn cattle to the pasture up beside the road. Well here we went, snorting, spinning, half-way bolting. I wasn’t afraid he was going to buck or anything, BUT I was afraid he was going to slip on the pavement. (In the meantime, my DH and Skip were calmly walking past the longhorns rushing the fence and in my head I’m like “Wahhhhhh, I want to be on Skip!” Anyway, I kind of lost my head a little and as soon as I could, I bailed off Cade and just stood with him a few minutes. What I should have done was lead him past the longhorns and then re-mount, continuing with my ride and then having a second chance to encounter them on our way back, but I was a little rattled and told my DH to just come on back and I’d lead him toward home. Cade was wide-eyed, prancy, etc and although he would get ahead of me, when I would bring him
back, he didn’t try to bolt or drag the reins out of my hand (note to self: may want to ride with a halter under the bridle for these type situations!) Got maybe a 1/4-mile past the longhorns,
I did remount and I rode him back to our pasture, where I did work him for maybe 15-20 minutes. He wasn’t a dingbat riding in the pasture, and we finished the ride on a fairly calm note.

And then…..


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PARAPHRASING LORETTA LYNN’S “FIST CITY”, APPARENTLY WE’RE HEADING FOR “SPOOK CITY”

I live in Central Texas and I don’t know why or how we’ve developed gale force winds here…I recently (within the last two years) moved back to this area and I do NOT remember these crazy winds from when I was kid. However, they’ve cleared a lot of the land since way back then, and maybe it’s just a more open area now. At any rate, the winds have been gusting up to 20-25 (and more) recently, which may not be a lot for those who live in that kind of condition all the time, but I pretty much feel like Dorothy and Toto on a regular basis!

So in our session yesterday (and since the first parade is Saturday….eeeeekkkkk!!!),
I couldn’t remember if my sister said she had worked Cade with a flag and thought “Ummm, I better work him with a flag!” (DUH!…and I contacted her and she had worked him with a flag some.) So I get out the flag, hung it from the side of my trailer and thought I would just walk him back and forth. The wind was whipping 90-to-nothing,
so it was a good time to desensitize to sight AND sound. It was funny because I didn’t catch Skip up too when I caught Cade, but Skip decided to come up to the trailer with us and so he was walking back and forth into the flag too…maybe I can get Skip to train Cade! LOL! Anyway, we did that for a while and then I tied him to trailer to tack him up while leaving the flag where it was and he seemed okay. He’s still not great at picking up back feet, although he’s great for farrier, so we had some discussion about that. Got him tacked and bridled and I mounted up. I did discover after our last ride, that bridle wasn’t set correctly for him so I did re-adjust that before mounting up. He’s 15.2-15.3 (I need to stick him) and I’m getting on from the ground so I was pretty proud of myself for that. I do try to find a spot where he’s lower than I am. He’ll eventually be exposed to mounting block but that’s for another day!

He did not want to play horse and rider yesterday. Balking, not listening to any kind of cues, wanting to go his own way (or not go at all!) so it was a figure 8 kind of day…..LOTS AND LOTS of figure 8s…move your feet, move your feet, move your feet. He doesn’t neck rein yet so the figure 8s are also good for that. He backs up pretty well, pivots really nicely, “iffy” on sidepassing. He’ll sidepass with leg pressure while moving but not starting from a stopped position (that’s not explaining that well at all). Anyway I had a pretty good ride for the most part, until the back pasture neighbor’s cows started moving around. There’s a lot of mesquite trees on his property and even though the trees are dry and brown, there’s enough cover that the cows appear, then disappear, then appear again. Lots of looks from Cade and he did stop, but at least he didn’t spin and bolt. That was later…..

So I rode him back and forth across the pasture, got him to trotting in the figure 8s, got him listening to leg pressure. He’s definitely a right-handed horse. Moves pretty nice to the right in the figure 8s, but Lordy, I got a workout to the left every single time. Anyway, I thought “Well, I’ll ride him back to the trailer and end on a good note”. Yeah no…..

The next door neighbors started trimming some dead tree limbs and branches with a chainsaw. Cade spun and attempted to bolt. I can recognize it now, and he was not allowed to bolt.
I made him stand still and just listen to the sound, and then asked for a couple of steps toward the fence between us and the neighbors. Apparently that was not what he thought should happen.
So we did some circles and pivots and worked a little where we were. Keeping in mind the recent reading I’ve done regarding “ask and reward effort with release” (see??? You can teach old dogs new tricks!), I again asked him for a couple of steps toward the fence. After a few more circles and pivots, he decided going toward the fence might not be so bad, and he stepped forward.
I immediately turned away from the fence and we headed toward the trailer. DH was in the pasture then, and I thought “Okay, let’s see if he remembers the flag isn’t a monster”,
and asked my DH to just stand there holding the flag while I approached him
from all directions and let the flag whip around. He was a little iffy at first, but rode through the flag a couple of times.
We stopped there and I untacked, then
worked a little on fly spray, rewarding with mini carrots for standing while being sprayed.

So….worked on a few things, and made progress on most. I know this is not how most people proceed with their “training”, but I am not a trainer and I am working on specific items for right now.

Onward and upward and we’ll have another session this afternoon.

I do have to say, and I’ll maybe be looked down upon for this, but I don’t enjoy “training”. But I’m not going to pay someone to get Cade to do these things either, so it will happen how it happens with me being the “trainer”. Also, I don’t own a round pen, Skip has never been lunged even once in his life (the vet gets onto me every time he needs a lameness exam!) and Cade doesn’t know how to lunge either. I
don’t know one person in my horse circles who lunges a horse before they get on, and I am of the mindset that anything that needs to be worked on on the ground can be worked on under saddle if the horse is broke to ride. I’m aware that is not the acceptable mindset in most circles and while I did get off Cade when he spooked at the longhorns, that was more for safety than anything else.

So we will stumble through together and hopefully he’ll take pity on this old lady and not make it too difficult!


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You had a sort of spook-flooding experience! But you came through alright! Good onya!

I haven't done any spook-proofing for a lot of years, but my old go-to was a John Lyons method. He was big on teaching a head-down cue to relax the horse, and also a reliable go-forward cue. Really strong on the go-forward. Cade's a little balky? I have a "science based" book called "Academic Horse Training" and it is also pretty adamant about fixing "broken" stop cues and go cues, because defective responses to those are pretty much the basis for all the more dangerous behaviors.

But anyway, back to John. He describes the following method for, say, getting a horse through a stream. You approach the stream until the horse begins to worry and stops. This is the outer edge of his comfort zone. If the horse is looking left or right, it is looking for an escape route, so you keep the horse looking at the "thing", while you look steadily at the place you want to be when you get past the thing. I.e. you are picking the spot you will end up. Use your go forward cue. The horse will likely try to back up, keep applying the aid, relentlessly, but just at a level where it is annoying and motivating, not coercive. When the horse stops, you're at the edge of the horse's new comfort one. Using your go forward cue, keeping the horse focused forward, if he takes a step forward, stop and rest (reward). Begin again. Over and over. Eventually the horse's comfort zone will be closer and closer to the scary thing. Then the thing becomes non frightening. No whipping, no coercion, no adding fuel to the fire. I actually have taught the method successfully. One of my driving horses was really kind of a nut bag. He got to where he'd see a booger, stop, lower his head, creep toward the thing a step at a time, until he was eventually nibbling grass next to it.

Anyway, congratulations on a successful outcome! May all your "uncertain" experiences resolve in your favor!

(BTW, this method and so many others can involve hours and hours for the first complete success. If you get any kind of a good "answer" from the horse during the process, you can quit and come back to it another day. A friend of mine used the above method to try to load a horse into a trailer. She spent six hours the first day and gave up. She came back the second day and the horse loaded right up.)
 

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@dogpatch, if I was going to follow a certain trainer, I think it would be John Lyons. Most of what he says/teaches makes a lot of sense to me in the real world. When I was circling Cade yesterday, I did try to make the circles larger and larger, kind of unwinding toward being closer to the neighbor’s fence. The balking is annoying, but thank goodness it’s that over a buck or
rear.

Thank you for the advice!

And sigh…yes, our next thing is trailer loading. With all the other stuff going on, I had kind of forgotten about his possible trailer loading issue and if a horse is going to balk at a trailer, it’s gonna be mine. 3H slant load GN with mangers and a back tack. The weather is supposed to be awful for riding tomorrow, so it may be a “Let’s see if he’ll load in the trailer” kind of day!


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@dogpatch, if I was going to follow a certain trainer, I think it would be John Lyons. Most of what he says/teaches makes a lot of sense to me in the real world. When I was circling Cade yesterday, I did try to make the circles larger and larger, kind of unwinding toward being closer to the neighbor’s fence. The balking is annoying, but thank goodness it’s that over a buck or
rear.

Thank you for the advice!

And sigh…yes, our next thing is trailer loading. With all the other stuff going on, I had kind of forgotten about his possible trailer loading issue and if a horse is going to balk at a trailer, it’s gonna be mine. 3H slant load GN with mangers and a back tack. The weather is supposed to be awful for riding tomorrow, so it may be a “Let’s see if he’ll load in the trailer” kind of day!


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Some of John's advice was just great, some, um, not so much I think! LOL! But then nobody has all the answers. Above all else, Lyons taught me the true meaning and importance of the "give", the release. That changed my life with horses forever, and I'll always be in his debt for that.

That, and getting a horse in a trailer. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but sooner or later, it will go.
 

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1. I hope you aren’t as bad as I am with keeping up a journal, lollol.

2. You don’t need a Roundpen. I never had one until 2004. I broke a lot horses from zero without ever needing a round pen.

If you have a fence row that’s at least a hundred feet long or more, it will be your best friend:). You can teach a lot on the rail, including correct leads:)

3. Setting aside the severe lack of exposure Cade has had to life, if he is too hyper, you can always try him on MagRestore which is magnesium malate. It has a lot more bioavailability than magnesium oxide.

PEN would probably send you a sample as a trial. I buy the powder form for Rusty. He’s on a half dose and maintains like a normal horse.


3.1. Cade’s big issue is that he likely needs a lot more wet blankets than you’re used to because he is nine and has had virtually no exposure:)

Sort of in the same vein, 27 yr old Duncan did not know how to graze when he got here last March. He was afraid to venture too far from the barn. For a long time he wouldn’t stay out in the rain if it was more than a sprinkle. He had to learn to be a country horse. Now he loves the heavy rain, loves the cold weather and will stay with Rusty to graze up on the ridge.

After experiencing Duncan’s panic in his new life, I can understand Cade’s confusion. The difference is Duncan is fully retired, you need Cade to quickly get with the program for your drill team events.

He needs a lot of work but maybe only short periods of time - working with him on different things daily. Hook the trailer to the truck so he can’t flip it and plan on going thru a lot offed if he’s a problem to load. I hate sweet feed but I think I would have a 50# bag handy for coaxing him on, if nothing else works, lol

You will get Cade where he needs to be, to do what you want 🤠👍🤠👍
 

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NO WORK WITH CADE TODAY

The best laid plans of mice and men….or cowgirls and paint horses as the case may be, fall by the wayside if your 85-year-old mom needs you. One of my mom’s cats has been sick (she has had all three of them over ten years). When she got up this morning, the cat was paralyzed. We found a vet who would see her today and after talking with the vet, my mom made the decision to allow her to cross the Rainbow Bridge. She couldn’t bear to stay with her so I told her I would do it. It’s been a sad day.

Regarding Cade, in the words of Scarlett O’Hara, “…tomorrow IS another day”.


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WHAT A GOOD BOY HE IS!

So I didn’t get to ride Monday (see above^) or yesterday (stupid weather), but I was bound and determined to ride today no matter what! It’s 74 degrees with winds of sustained 18mph/gusts up to 31mph, but like I said, I was determined!!

Even though we’ve started working a little more consistently, he still doesn’t run from me in the pasture, so yay(!) for that. It’s 9 open acres and I would be one tired old lady…or be figuring something else out for sure.

We had pulled my trailer out of the pasture into the driveway in prep for traveling to the parade this week, so I actually had to take him out of the pasture to tack him up. He wasn’t a big fan of being that far from Skip (a whole hundred yards ) but he was tied where he could see him and that ended up fine. He is pretty inconsistent on picking up his feet for cleaning; however, it’s a different foot every time. Today he was a champ about the back feet and didn’t want to pick up the right front. Every time I would reach for that right front, he would start backing away from the trailer. I do tie in a quick release but did NOT want the lead rope to get really tight, so I made the decision to untie him but leave the lead rope loosely threaded through the tie ring on the trailer. I once again reached for the foot, he backs up but discovers, “Oh, I can do that!” I’d let him back a few steps, he would stop and I’d just lead him forward to the trailer. By the third time, he decided that wasn’t fun anymore and he picked the foot up before I even asked for it. I was so proud of myself for not getting frustrated or impatient and just being like, “Well, I can do this all day if you can!” LOL! He’s not one you can jerk forward for anything….he’s determined to win and at his size, he will!

Anyway, got him tacked up and I continue to love that he will stand for mounting. Skip’s not even really good about that! We started around the pasture and good heavens, that wind was fierce! Not cold at all, but whipping things around pretty much. Skip was running around bucking, the neighbor’s cows were in the back pasture, the construction equipment over the back hill was clanging around and beeping. I ignored all of it and, as a result, so did Cade! No balking or spinning today. He had one ear cocked back listening to me and I talked to him a LOT today. I think he likes/needs that. We worked on some figure 8s again and he was better to the left, and it seemed to click what I was asking for a couple of times.

I like for my horses to back on a vocal cue only, and by the end of the session, he was connecting my “sshhh, sshhh, sshhh” with backing so that was progress as well. Trotted some but not a lot as it’s still kind of muddy in the pasture.

Ended on a good note, then decided on liberty practice (for lack of a better term) with the flag. Had the flag and a few mini carrots but he didn’t have a halter on or anything and could leave at any time. Skip is good to include in those sections because he does not care one bit about that flag at all. Keep in mind the wind is gusting up to 30 mph so that flag was whipping around some! They had to get close enough to me to take the carrot out of my hand, which also meant they had to basically reach through the flag. Cade did great…the miracles of the hand held treat!

We ended there and I felt pretty good about all we accomplished. We did not work on trailer loading, but it’s supposed to be decent weather again tomorrow so we’ll tackle that then.

I think one of the differences today is I was really relaxed, no real expectations and if we made progress, great, and if we only walked in a straight line without balking, well that was great too. I really do like him a lot.


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YAY👍🤠👍🤠

1. “I have until midnight“ was always my favorite phrase, lol.

2. No expectations therefore no time frame to meet, therefore no stress coming from you that a horse can sense👍👍

3. Really great job in that wind. Not only because of the wind itself but because it carries smells and sounds from far away that can easily spook a horse.
 

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WELP. CADE DID NOT MAKE THE TRAVELING TEAM FOR THE PARADE….WHAT A RODEO!

So….I continued to ride him in preparation for the parade 2/18,
worked on trailer loading, worked with the flag, tried to cover things I thought we might encounter. I want to affirm I was not concerned about the riding part at all…I felt confident I could ride out any spook he might throw at me.

HOWEVER!!!!!! Got up Saturday morning early and was going to bathe him. Ummm he doesn’t bathe…couldn’t get within 50 feet of him with a water horse. I have never encountered a horse who wouldn’t bathe, so I was a little discombobulated. He’s mostly bay, so I just shrugged it off and said we’ll work on that another time. I brushed him off really well and I called it good on that.

Took about 30 minutes to get him in the trailer but I had anticipated that and allowed enough time. He did load up without a lot of drama and I thought, “Okay, we’re good to go!” I have mangers (this is important) in the 3-horse slant load trailer and I had put hay in there to keep him occupied.
I was mostly ready myself and after he was loaded, I just ran into the house to change my clothes and was going to be on our way.

I heard the most god-awful racket going on, pawing and what not, and when I opened the door, I heard DH screaming “Get out here, get out here, get out here!” Ran out there, and DH is seriously panicked. I opened the back door of the trailer and Cade had reared up and gotten his front hooves into the manger. I became more than a little panicked myself, wondering how to extricate him from his position. A horse can absolutely not turn around in my trailer, with the mangers there just isn’t enough room. My DH had hold of the lead rope and was trying to keep him from trying to turn around and we still couldn’t figure out how to get his feet out of the manger.

This is where my trying to train him to back by vocal cue only came in handy.
I started with the vocal cue and he did remember and start backing, but would back a couple of steps and then go forward again and his front feet were STILL in the manger. Just kept asking him to back and he finally got one foot down on the trailer floor and as he backed, he drug the other one out of the manger too. We got him backed out and thankfully he was not injured at all.

Called my sister and told her what happened and she initially said just don’t come to parade, but I had some costuming items she needed and so I ended up loading up trusty old Skip and rode him in the parade.

DH thinks Cade was actually trying to jump through the window above the manger and wanted out out OUT. My dilemma now is…this is the trailer I have and he needs to ride in that trailer. It wasn’t a trailer loading issue because when he loaded, he loaded just fine. Now that he knows he can rear up in there, I don’t know how to keep him from doing it again.

My BIL and once of my teammates said maybe DH could build some kind of cover for the manger where he couldn’t get his hooves in there, but that doesn’t solve the rearing. Quite a few other people said “Well feed him in the trailer”, etc but it wasn’t a trailer loading issue, it was a “staying in the trailer” issue.

He’s got to be able to travel and I don’t even know how to go about fixing this problem.

So that was the heart attack inducing fun I got to have yesterday!


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It may not be a chronic problem. My sister bought a pony from me and needed to haul it from Indiana to Ohio. We got her loaded and she needed to load a few more things and while doing that, the pony managed to get itself partly up into the manger. I can’t remember how we got her out (I remember being scared though-long time ago) but she was fine going home and never had any more problems. It was a 4-H pony so was trailered many, many times after that in the same trailer.
You’ve probably done this but I would load the 2 of them and drive around the block a few times then haul him separately the same distance a few times but be ready to go as soon as loaded.
 

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WELP. CADE DID NOT MAKE THE TRAVELING TEAM FOR THE PARADE….WHAT A RODEO!

So….I continued to ride him in preparation for the parade 2/18,
worked on trailer loading, worked with the flag, tried to cover things I thought we might encounter. I want to affirm I was not concerned about the riding part at all…I felt confident I could ride out any spook he might throw at me.

HOWEVER!!!!!! Got up Saturday morning early and was going to bathe him. Ummm he doesn’t bathe…couldn’t get within 50 feet of him with a water horse. I have never encountered a horse who wouldn’t bathe, so I was a little discombobulated. He’s mostly bay, so I just shrugged it off and said we’ll work on that another time. I brushed him off really well and I called it good on that.

Took about 30 minutes to get him in the trailer but I had anticipated that and allowed enough time. He did load up without a lot of drama and I thought, “Okay, we’re good to go!” I have mangers (this is important) in the 3-horse slant load trailer and I had put hay in there to keep him occupied.
I was mostly ready myself and after he was loaded, I just ran into the house to change my clothes and was going to be on our way.

I heard the most god-awful racket going on, pawing and what not, and when I opened the door, I heard DH screaming “Get out here, get out here, get out here!” Ran out there, and DH is seriously panicked. I opened the back door of the trailer and Cade had reared up and gotten his front hooves into the manger. I became more than a little panicked myself, wondering how to extricate him from his position. A horse can absolutely not turn around in my trailer, with the mangers there just isn’t enough room. My DH had hold of the lead rope and was trying to keep him from trying to turn around and we still couldn’t figure out how to get his feet out of the manger.

This is where my trying to train him to back by vocal cue only came in handy.
I started with the vocal cue and he did remember and start backing, but would back a couple of steps and then go forward again and his front feet were STILL in the manger. Just kept asking him to back and he finally got one foot down on the trailer floor and as he backed, he drug the other one out of the manger too. We got him backed out and thankfully he was not injured at all.

Called my sister and told her what happened and she initially said just don’t come to parade, but I had some costuming items she needed and so I ended up loading up trusty old Skip and rode him in the parade.

DH thinks Cade was actually trying to jump through the window above the manger and wanted out out OUT. My dilemma now is…this is the trailer I have and he needs to ride in that trailer. It wasn’t a trailer loading issue because when he loaded, he loaded just fine. Now that he knows he can rear up in there, I don’t know how to keep him from doing it again.

My BIL and once of my teammates said maybe DH could build some kind of cover for the manger where he couldn’t get his hooves in there, but that doesn’t solve the rearing. Quite a few other people said “Well feed him in the trailer”, etc but it wasn’t a trailer loading issue, it was a “staying in the trailer” issue.

He’s got to be able to travel and I don’t even know how to go about fixing this problem.

So that was the heart attack inducing fun I got to have yesterday!


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Oh gosh, my heart is going out to you! I had a mare do the same thing, reared in the trailer and got her feet stuck in the manger, we were actually on the road. One or two other trailering "incidents". I am sorry I can't help you with ideas, all I can do is commiserate!
 

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Friend and I had been to a trail ride and when we got back to her house we unloaded her horse and then started unloading her stuff. It was a 2 horse straight load with mangers. The little feed door was in the middle with a window on each side. I hear a commotion (besides her horse screaming bloody murder at the separation), turned to look and JC had one foot and his nose stuck out of the feed door and the other foot was hanging out of a busted window. Did the same as you, got him untied and then told him to back. He ended up with one little cut on foot he busted the window out with. Thankfully that horse tended to learn from his mistakes and he never did it again.

Another time we were at Brown County (state park with a horse camp & trails) and some people had a horse hanging halfway out the feed door. They ended up pulling a picnic table up against the trailer so the horse's front feet could get some purchase and that horse ended up pulling itself all the way through the door. They thought it was ok other than a few scrapes but we were on our way out so I don't know if the horse ended up getting really sore or not.

Edited to add in the second paragraph technically it was a drop down window but my old mind still calls them feed doors. LOL
 

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Thanks, y’all. Cade would not have been able to get himself through the window if he had broken through that, so I can’t even imagine what would have happened if he had gotten that far.

I’m not gonna lie, I can work on the bathing, and continue to work on the trailer loading but this new problem has me very apprehensive. I can load
Skip with him and see if that will calm him some, but I don’t want two horses
getting hurt either.

Since my team events and practices
are not in my area, that means he has a lot of time to lose his mind in the trailer if he decides to, and since I’m on my own most of the time, I wouldn’t even know how to fix it en route. I’m going to have to figure out a solution though.


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