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I know that with her QH bloodlines she is definitely built downhill! But other than that, I'm just curious what others have to say about her conformation. :)

This is Sandie, and she is an 8 yr old registered Paint, with Overo's several gens back on her sire's side and QH's on the dam's.

**Sorry, I'm on her in some of these which I know makes it difficult to critique confo, but I couldn't find very man good ones without her being ridden! The ones without me on her were actually taken last year.

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Come on now, you know Sandie is perfect ;p. Haha. She is a bit downhill and a little post legged in the back. She looks like she may be a bit cow-hocked as well. Her neck ties in a little high for my taste but that is all a matter of preferance. Her shoulder does look a little bit steep. She is one gorgeous little girl. :D
 

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Come on now, you know Sandie is perfect ;p. Haha. She is a bit downhill and a little post legged in the back. She looks like she may be a bit cow-hocked as well. Her neck ties in a little high for my taste but that is all a matter of preferance. Her shoulder does look a little bit steep. She is one gorgeous little girl. :D
Thank you! :) Now, I am not familiar with some of the terms above, so if you wouldn't mind explaining to some who is conformation verbiage-challenged, I would really appreciate it! ;-)
 

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Post legged means that her hocks are a little bit too straight and don't have enough angle. Cowhocked means that her hocks are closer together and her hooves are farther apart, generally these horses also have hooves/lower legs that point slightly outward (toed out). Her shoulder and croup are both at about a 45 degree angle. I like to see them both a little flatter, that usually gives a horse a smoother, longer stride. The angle that her neck ties in with her withers is more angular too. I prefer the horses that tie in a little flatter like reining or pleasure horses. Rafe's neck ties in low. Sandie has more of a performance/speed headset.
 

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I'm a QH person, I don't think her shoulder is too steep at all... the more steep the shoulder, the choppier (is that a word?) the stride, I always heard it, the less slope the better lope...

What you look for in conformation is for the horse to be equally proportioned. Say you take a picture of your horse, chop it off at the neck. Preferably, you should be able to draw 3 O's on your horse's body. One O at the shoulder, one O at the barrel, and one O on the rump. The more equal the O's in shape (more or less oval) supposedly the better the conformation, with a few exceptions in there, smaller front end makes for speed horses, roping, barrels, etc. Short backs, tiny heineys... you get it.

As far as I can tell she looks pretty sound to me. She may be slightly post-legged, but a lot of horses are, and it never really harms their abilities. I think her headset is ok for how she's built, it's a little high, but overall, she's not conformed to doing events where holding the head down low is necessary. If her neck were any lower, it would throw off that beautiful wither she has going on and make her look like she's got a shark fin, which would inevitably destroy her whole conformation.

She's a paint horse. She looks like a paint should. There's a little color thrown in with the QH and TB lines. And she's built like a QH should be.
 

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I think she kind of looks like my mare conformation wise. there is definatly nothing majorly bad about her confo. Shes a pretty little horse! What kind of riding do you do with her? I agree with the above posts. My mare is built downhill too. Shes more of a stocky type qh. im teaching her dressage and the fact that shes built downhill makes it harder for her to stay on the bit but she is becoming very balanced.
 

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I think she kind of looks like my mare conformation wise. there is definatly nothing majorly bad about her confo. Shes a pretty little horse! What kind of riding do you do with her? I agree with the above posts. My mare is built downhill too. Shes more of a stocky type qh. im teaching her dressage and the fact that shes built downhill makes it harder for her to stay on the bit but she is becoming very balanced.
Thanks! We do dressage as well! :) And we've been training for a year working on just balance (she was out of shape when I got her a year ago) and building up her hind end, and we're just now getting into collection and getting her on the bit. I agree with you, being built downhill does make it harder for them inherently, but def possible with training and the right muscles toned! ;-)

We do Eventing, just started that last year at the Intro level at some schooling mini trials and Sandie LOVES it! She loves to jump, and let me tell you, that big powerful QH butt makes them good at that! ;-)
 

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In addition to what has been said, she looks to be slightly over at the knee and tied in below the knee, as well as having a thick throatlatch.

None of these issues are all that serious, but I would keep an eye on her joints the more you jump her. Over at the knee is better than back at the knee, but still be careful.

Overall she is very cute and eye catching, and I certainly wouldn't turn her away!
 

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And to be honest, I'd much rather have one built downhill than uphill!
Uphill built is a good thing. At least if you're riding dressage or jumpers, anyways.

Wikipedia said:
The peak of the withers is higher than the peak of the croup when the horse is square. This is commonly referred to as built uphill. Uphill build is very advantageous in dressage, eventing, etcetera, as the horse has an easier time engaging the hind end. However true uphill or downhill build depends on the levelness of the spine. Many breeds characteristically have high and prominent withers, such as the TB. In these horses the withers may be higher than the croup giving the impression of an uphill build while the horse's actual spine levelness is downhill.
Rosenkavalier is an example of an uphill build.
 

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^^And that is also why a lot of QH, paints, and Appys don't excel in dressage and jumping. Most are built downhill because that is most advantageous when working cattle and roping.
 
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