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I had a nice ride on Chance today :) Besides a few minor things such as:

NOTE!! All this stuff was fixed up untill winter hit! So all of this stuff I know how to fix it just annoying that it ALL comes back at once when Winter comes.

spooking out in the drive way and running about 1/2 a mile before stopping.. this was AFTER shes been out there for a good 20 mins. Instead of running TO the barn she runs AWAY from it :lol:.. I dont mind spooks that are little jumps forward or even a few running strides.. but full out galloping is just ridiculous. She is also jumping and spooking at everything shes use to! Such as stall doors slamming or wheel barrow squeaking behind her.. Shes use to it ALL but, now that its winter.. everything is terrifying.

If other horses were on the other side of the arena and I asked her to canter in a circle she would totally blow me off trying to get to them.. bend her neck the way I was asking but side pass at the canter no matter how much outside leg I put on her, even used the whip as a block and that wouldnt even get her. After a few tries I got her behaving and cantering in a nice circle.

Also now her door issue is coming back, if the side door was open and you were trying to canter by it she would slam the breaks RIGHT at the door almost sending me over her neck. I would try and push her past it but it almost led to her jumping the gaurd. So I tried just re asking her to canter right after the stop.. I know eventually she will learn to not do that like before but again just annoying as hell.

Or I would try and ask her to go around the jump or w.e and she would jerk her body into and attempt to jump it throwing me way off balence and then she would stop dead -.-! In the process knocking the jump. Okay so thats not such a big deal but still annoying :p The only way to really get her to listen is to jerk her head and I dont like being that much in her mouth.

This is just today. Theres a rant thread on what she did the past few days[its called bad day *rant* long if your interested]...

WHY!! Is it all coming back... last winter she was completely unrideable.. so I guess being able to ride her in general is a plus but oh my god. Honestly?! Again?! I know some of it is respect but I worked with her on the ground and she was totally submissive and respectful towards me. So its not respect on ground thats the problem its more undersaddle recently.

Today she did fairly well besides the above. W.t.c and jumped 1'6 a few times. So im happy with what she DID accomplish. But how long is she gonna keep this up... am I gonna have to start all over again next winter too?!

Does anyone have horse that back track about 100 steps in a certin season???? I saw this coming, I was just praying it wouldn't happen. Any suggestions.

I almost want to say just call it quits.. I've had her for 2 years and been going way up hill and right when we get somewhere she falls back down. But then again shes actually rideable this winter so its an improvement. But if anyone else works with her and rides aggressively or to demanding she goes into a bucking fit with them so I've always back out of selling her cause im afraid of what will happen to her. Shes so use to be hurt when Im not around.

She has A LOT of positives that make up the negitives but the negitives keep creeping up.

Shes also having a real nice attitude towards me and is actually trotting to me in the pasture, so its not like shes having a relationship problem with me.

CONFUSED :lol:

Another NOTE: I never got mad at her today, just ignored the bad [working on fixing as we went along] and Praised her like mad when she did what I wanted. :wink:
 

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btw im not asking how to fix the problems, I know how to do that.

Im more asking about your experience with horses that kept going back like 100 steps in their training once a certin season hit.
 

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LOL dang.

:p

I just dont understand really. Ive been working with her for 2 years and its been interesting journey to say at the least. Shes an amazing mare if seh would stay sane in the winter lol
 

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Maybe she's in season? Just a though.

And were are you from? Does it snow in winter? If so then the snow makes everything look different, like it's new again.

Has she been ridden lately.. Like in the lead up to winter, if not then she's probably fresh.

Good luck with her, and don't worry about going backwards, you can't got backwards for ever... soon enough there will be a forwards.
 

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i just spend alot of time doing groundwork with my mare, i just feel like it brings her to a happy place where she is thankful to have someone in charge. this is why i haven't ridden her yet, she listens and understands 90% of the time, but the other 10% she worries about eating, being with her friends, becoming nervous of certain noises, so on and so forth. that is truly what i get impatient about, all the distractions that i have to fight over for her mind. I want that last 10%, then i'll get on her. winter has been rough for frida, but a huge part of that was moving her to a new barn. it has taken her 6 weeks to adjust, this week i've finally noticed her relaxing and becoming familiar with the routine. i don't exactly know if it was a combination of both, because she had a real hard cycle when we came to the new barn, and it was really cold. She was bucking and facing me and racing around on the lunge when she used to be quiet and mellow. Then I really began to work with her, kind of almost bossing her around in an assertive way, and it was almost as if she was thankful to have someone manage the situation. good luck.
 

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She was ridden regularly up till recently she got 3 days off cause of snow and been ridden 3-4 times this week.. Which answers you question yes we gets Lots of snow .. we live in maine :) I mean she wasn't like full of energy.
 

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Wow! Sounds like you are having a lot of fun!?

Wish I could help, but I do not have these issues with my two.

If you've been down this road before with her, and she comes out of it in the spring, just hang in and continue reinforcing what you've taught her. Sounds a lot like a friends TB. Very sensitive and reactive. With the cool temps (yes I know that shouldn't matter, but lets face it, for some it does) maybe she becomes the other horse.

Good luck to you, don't let it get you down. Just look at it as another opportunity to work with her and get her solid. (yes, easy for me to say).:wink:
 

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Just a thought, sorry to dbl post, but does her feed change in the winter?
 

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Lmao yeah its been a blast! :p

It doesn't help that shes a TB/Arab so yes shes at hotter breed. BUt she has such a sweet calm side that I wish would stayyyy. lol.

She usually comes out of it its just the idea of going over everything again.
 

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Look at it this way. You've trained how many horses that came in one horses body! (yup, still looking for the up side to this):lol:
 

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Like I said in the other thread, I'd go back to strictly trot work until you have her kinks worked out. Maybe she thinks that canter = run around and play/get out of control. You need to bring her back to earth, and that will be easier at the trot, less fighting with her.
 

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Lol I think your right .. lately canter has been to much fun for her LOL! She actually offers to canter randomly which is great but I'd rather have her connected with me :p
 

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sometimes they just had off days. Mine were all insane the other day, then a few days later they were fine... Mine haven't been ridden very much at all since Novemeber. She may just be rusty and need a little reminding...
 

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I have kind of similar issues sometimes. I'm in college, and school's about an hour from home. I get to come home most weekends, but between being gone (sister takes care of the horses, but she's got a lot on her plate, too, between high school and a part time job) and the nasty weather and footing I don't get to do much with Scout, and he doesn't get to go outside like he does in the other 3 seasons. I hate making excuses for it, and I spend my weekends and breaks bringing him back down to earth, but the culmination of all the "winter stuff" takes it's toll on his understanding of manners in general. As of now, he needs saddled and put onto a forward trot until he offers to walk, but my whole farm is a slippery frozen wreck... :lol:.

It WILL get better as the weather breaks, I'm sure of it. There may be a little "spring fever" time, but by and large she'll likely improve. For myself, I resign myself to a 3 month riding hiatus, and spend about the first 3 rides of the spring reestablishing sanity and the stuff he knew in the fall, and we continue on our merry for the summer. I do like SeWHC's idea of just going back to the walk and trot under saddle, reestablishing sanity and respect there. It sounds like you've got a good handle on things on the ground, which tells me that it shouldn't take a lot to convince Chance that you're still worthy of respect in the saddle. :wink:

Good luck, and ride safely! Things will get easier, I'm sure of it!
 

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Farmpony- How about off week :p But yeah I mean she is just being put back into "normal" work rather then parelli but even then.. oh well we'll start moving forward again soon :)

SR- Yeah I always feel like im making excuses... oh winter.. oh the snow on the roof.. oh that corner LOL! But today was a good day, worked her on lunge with lunge reins and she did very well, So it keeps me looking for the future :)

Lol trying to keep the horse at the trot undersaddle is the challenge :p now all she wants to do is canter.. not to mention its a NICE canter but then she gets to forward. lol But yeah Ill deff do a lot of just walk/trot work keep the canter on the ground for now.

Thanks for the replies :)
 

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As I mentioned on hour rant thread, yes my horse back slides every winter too, although nowhere near as badly as what you're describing. After 3 seasons of it, I think the ball is finally in my court. He backslides to the same degree each winter, but each year I have more confidence and more tools in my box. I've been having the problem for 2 weeks, but almost have it all worked out. Last week I did a lot of ground work with him in his "scary" areas. This week we put it to the test under saddle. I used ground poles first in the arena and then moved them out into the scary areas to give him something he's familiar with. We walked and trotted over them until he was doing them with complete calmness. Tomorrow we're going to add cantering and then a big rain storm is coming to mess everything up, so next week he may backslide a little, but I strongly doubt we'll be at square one. I'm not sure what to tell you. Just take a few steps back and try to give your horse things to do other than think about the monsters.
 
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